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Question: What is "junk silver"?

RYKRYK Posts: 35,797 ✭✭✭✭✭
I know that junk silver includes circulated silver Roosies and Wash quarters, but what about Frankies? Do Walkers get a premium over junk? SLQ's? Mercs? Barber coinage? And as silver prices rise, do some of the coins that previously would have sold for a premium over "junk" (ie. low MS Wash quarters, SLQs, etc.) get rolled into the junk category or do prices on these rise?

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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I thought it was any silver coinage that you could not read the date or had other damage making it basically non collectable.
    Or not worth it's melt value.
  • ms71ms71 Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Basically, it's whatever goes into the mix trading for the "current multiple" of face value dictated by the silver spot price. As the multiple increases, you see a wider variety of stuff in the mix.
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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,797 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Basically, it's whatever goes into the mix trading for the "current multiple" of face value dictated by the silver spot price. As the multiple increases, you see a wider variety of stuff in the mix.

    Yes, but I (and others) would like to know exactly what belongs in the mix and what does not. For example, you would hate for grandma to bring her silver coins to the shop and be told that seated dollars are also just junk silver and get six-plus times face for them. Where does the line get drawn?
  • For me, the line gets drawn at melt value. If any silver coin is only worth the value of silver then it is "junk silver".
  • carlcarl Posts: 2,054
    Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. What is junk to one person could be a treasure to others. For instance there are people that buy buffalo nickels with out dates for decorative purposes. I've seen people gladly pay $1.25 to $1.50 for Mercury Dimes also with out dates because they collect Mercury Dimes. What some people throw out, others would gladly buy. Check out ebay.
    Carl
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  • dizzyfoxxdizzyfoxx Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭
    <Question: What is "junk silver"?>

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  • ms71ms71 Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have no idea in the current market, I just haven't been that close to it. I do remember the 1979-80 hysteria when silver got into the $50 range. The "junk" mix was loaded with Barbers. They seemed disproportionately heavy in the late going because most people had already unloaded their Mercs, Roosies, Washingtons, Frankins, Walkers, Peace, Morgans, and even Standing Libs as the price ran up. It got really crazy near the high, but I don't remember any Seated stuff of any denomination except the occasional damaged piece.
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    Coinlearner, Ahrensdad, Nolawyer, RG, coinlieutenant, Yorkshireman, lordmarcovan, Soldi, masscrew, JimTyler, Relaxn, jclovescoins

    Now listen boy, I'm tryin' to teach you sumthin' . . . . that ain't an optical illusion, it only looks like an optical illusion.

    My mind reader refuses to charge me....
  • TorinoCobra71TorinoCobra71 Posts: 8,054 ✭✭✭


    << <i> Basically, it's whatever goes into the mix trading for the "current multiple" of face value dictated by the silver spot price. As the multiple increases, you see a wider variety of stuff in the mix.

    Yes, but I (and others) would like to know exactly what belongs in the mix and what does not. For example, you would hate for grandma to bring her silver coins to the shop and be told that seated dollars are also just junk silver and get six-plus times face for them. Where does the line get drawn? >>



    The answer to this question is going to VARY greatly from person to person!

    TorinoCobra71

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  • TorinoCobra71TorinoCobra71 Posts: 8,054 ✭✭✭


    << <i><Question: What is "junk silver"?>

    Silver coins that have been dipped!image >>



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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,421 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As the price of silver rises, more and more numismatic items see their numismatic value eclipsed by their bullion value. This type of material is "junk" silver. Back in the early 80's many, many low grade Barber coins were melted as "junk." It may happen again to many of the Barber coins that fail to make a "full rims" Good.
    All glory is fleeting.
  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭
    its what I deem "not worth bothering with" and that includes painted silver eagles.
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  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There are always a few telemarketer dealers who pay a slight premium for Walkers and Mercs. Maybe not consistently but sporadically. Covina Coin comes to mind immediately.
  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,941 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>For me, the line gets drawn at melt value. If any silver coin is only worth the value of silver then it is "junk silver". >>



    Sounds about right.
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  • WWWWWW Posts: 2,609 ✭✭✭

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  • WWW - That's pretty darned funny, but would have gotten a better response on the dark side.

    RYK, I'll give you a list of "junk silver" as I define it:

    circulated late date Mercury dimes (1940s)
    circulated Roosies, any date
    circulated Washingtons excepting 1932 D and 1932 S
    dateless SLQs
    heavily circulated (say less than XF) late date Walkers (1940s)
    any circulated Franklin half
    any 1964 Kennedy half that isn't a blazing gem
    cull (worn slick, bent, scribed, gouged, corroded, etc.) common date Morgan and Peace dollars
    cull (all of above plus unreadable date) Barber coinage

    That is my very general definition of "junk silver," accurate as of 3/25/2006. Hope that helps.
  • DaveGDaveG Posts: 3,535
    I'd agree that the definition of "junk silver" varies with the price of silver.

    At $3/oz., not that many coins are "junk", but at $25/oz. a whole lot of coins are "junk"!

    Check out the Southern Gold Society

  • 1964 AH Kennedy's, as an example
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,797 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Coindexter,

    Thanks! That is the answer I was seeking. image
  • Conder101Conder101 Posts: 10,536
    Simple answer, any coin where the bullion value is 80% or more of the value of the coin has the potential of turning up in the junk silver bag.
  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Question: What is "junk silver"? >>

    That all depends on how high silver rises doesn't it??image If silver was to hit $50 an ounce the term "junk silver" would include many better date coins.

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