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Does anyone think there should be a short explaination of why a coin camne back with the grade it wa

In other words if you submit a coin to one of the TPG and you get back a different grade than you hoped for or thought it would come back. should you get a small note or some info like " this coin graded ms64 because ......". just a short thing to help customers understand better.

Or do we just take the blind faith of the coin grading gods and accept whatever answer is given without any explaination.

any thoughts ?

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  • relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570

    Ummm... how would they know what grade you expected? image
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  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,502 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't send coins in for grading, but if I did I would appreciate some sort of explanation of grade. Even a short checklist as to what the coin had (e.g. "excessive bagmarks") or didn't have (e.g. luster) would be a beneficial service.
  • They wouldn't know what grade you expected just a note explaining why they assigned it the grade they did. I.e "rim nick", "slight wear on breast feathers" just some small explaination.
  • itsnotjustmeitsnotjustme Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭
    It would also add to the cost of the service....
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  • morganbarbermorganbarber Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭
    It would also open up a dialogue/argument. The first guy who got a checklist that said "due to bagmarks" or "due to lack of luster" would probably reply "what about my MSxx which has less luster, or whatever. I think that for a grade it should stand for itself. Bodybags are different.
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  • JcarneyJcarney Posts: 3,154
    Never happen. This would be something you could hold them to when standards "adjust".
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  • RBinTexRBinTex Posts: 4,328
    At LEAST a "note" telling the submitter (i.e. the PAYER) what grade they believed it was if it didn't cross!
  • relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570


    << <i>At LEAST a "note" telling the submitter (i.e. the PAYER) what grade they believed it was if it didn't cross! >>

    Amen to that. HRH said they were going to do that, but it never happened.



    << <i>They wouldn't know what grade you expected just a note explaining why they assigned it the grade they did. >>


    Well you are paying for their opinion, and that's what you get. If it returns a MS64 it's because they think it's better than a 63 but not as good as a 65.
    I think it would be easier to just include a discount coupon to attend an ANA grading seminar
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  • ChangeInHistoryChangeInHistory Posts: 3,058 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If I submitted coins regularly I'd like to have a brief note explaining the grade, but could you imagine the submission times if they had to do that for every coin? They only spend 3 seconds grading a coin, now add 20-30 seconds to assign a note to each one. Economy times would be measured in months, not days.
  • FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The "Explanation Tier" of grading. Maybe you have hit upon another money maker for TPG's. Of course this tier would be at the TPG's convience time wise.

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  • ERER Posts: 7,345
    Yeah, like "We just felt like that today". Translate: Crack it out and resubmit.image
  • zennyzenny Posts: 1,547 ✭✭


    << <i>" this coin graded ms64 because ......". >>





    it's not a 65?
  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777
    Of course they should- especially if it bodybagged....
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  • TorinoCobra71TorinoCobra71 Posts: 8,054 ✭✭✭
    If ask for a reason I am sure they will find some way to charge you for it. There goes the submission fees again... up, up, and away!

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  • ElKevvoElKevvo Posts: 4,120 ✭✭✭✭✭
    And also they would be helping you learn how to grade which might hurt business!

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  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭


    << <i>In other words if you submit a coin to one of the TPG and you get back a different grade than you hoped for or thought it would come back. should you get a small note or some info like " this coin graded ms64 because ......". just a short thing to help customers understand better.

    Or do we just take the blind faith of the coin grading gods and accept whatever answer is given without any explaination.

    any thoughts ? >>



    If the grading companies provided a short explaination of why a grade was assigned would certainly be helpful, but there are too many coins to be graded and providing an explaination would consume too much time.
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  • Yes............ it would help the hobby.


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  • ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭
    Not very practical, costly, time consuming, wildly subjective and bound to lead to endless debates and arguments.

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  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    I have actually asked this to David Hall. I figure for $30 if a coin is returned we should get some kind of write up with it, especially since someone is looking at it and developing the write up of what they think in their head anyway. I don't remember the exact response but he said the only time this would happen is if it was sent in for a presidential review. image

    edited to add: We should get a write up even if the coin is slabbed.
  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    Better yet, there should be a write up of every coin available online when the cert number is looked up. image

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