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Need a reason to keep coins in a bank vault, my house burned down today!

So I am at work and I get an email from my neighbor saying that smoke is coming out of my downstairs window. I live 10 minutes away and get home in 5 min. As I pull up I see thick smoke but no fire, however you all know the saying...where there's smoke....Well, it was there we just did not see it.

About 30 sec after I pull up a pumper pulls up and they start yanking the hose off the truck and hooking up to the hydrant. I'm thinking, is this all necessary, it's only smoke. Fast forward, 10 min. the whole front of the house is gone, burnt to a crisp. Something electrical they say.

I don't think it's sunk in yet. I am still in disbelief, this only happens to other people, right? Wife is devasted but not me. Not yet?

The postive? No coins lost, my entire collection lives at the bank. As a matter of fact the only thing we lost were some clothes, books, bedroom furniture [which we wanted to replace anyway], a 19" TV [now we have an excuse to get a plasma TV], an older stereo, and some other crap. Now that I think about it we really didn't lose anything of importance and minimal value.

Maybe tomorrow reality will set in but I consider us lucky, it could have happened at night and we would be history. So time to deal with insurance adjusters, living in a cramped apartment [we have 3,800sf now] and rebuilding. I dread the thought! Maybe it's time to try something new housing wise in a new location or home style?

Anyway, learn from my almost unfortunate experience. Do not keep valuable collections at home and if you do keep them off the ground! The firemen poured a few thousand gallons of water onto the fire and got it out in less than 20min but left about a foot and a half of black smelly water on the floor downstairs and soaked flooring/carpet upstairs. A floor safe would have either burned or been flooded. Again I feel very very lucky!

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  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,580 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Egads! What a terrible thing to have happen to-day! I'm glad that you weren't hurt, and that nothing was lost. A cautionary tale, to be sure!
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  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭
    sorry to hear about this. i am glad everyone is safe and
    you realize how little a tv is worth when you think about it.
    as in, possessions can be replaced.
  • tmot99tmot99 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭
    now THAT's a bad day. I'm sorry to hear about that. I can't imagine how I might react.

    Glad to hear everyone is safe.
  • WOW! As you said, I'm glad no one was home at the time and a very real reason to keep coins in safe or bank. I hope your new home comes together quickly.

    God bless.

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  • That sux!

    Question: Your neighbor sent you an e-mail??? Did your neighbor not have your phone number?
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  • BigEBigE Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭
    tarmac, very sorry for your loss, a similar thing happened to me---------------BigE
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  • Question: Your neighbor sent you an e-mail??? Did your neighbor not have your phone number?

    Yes, isn't that odd? He had my home # but not my cell or work. And I was in a panic and could not remember his last name so I could not find it on my computer with his home number. I figured I 'd get home before I remembered.

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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,439 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm glad for you that you and your family are safe, that your neighbor was kind enough to contact you to let you know (some neighbors will just watch tragedies and not try to contact anyone or help) and that your losses seem minor (and that your coins are safe image ).

    Again, glad you and your family are ok!

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  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That is reallt really bad news. Thank God no one got hurt.
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  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,997 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's horrible. Glad you and your family are alright. Take care Dale.
  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,209 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Glad to hear your okay!

    Nice to hear that material losses were minimal, as well, but no material good is more precious than life.
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  • Dang, I`m really sorry about your home!imageimage It definetly qualifies as a pretty bad day. Good to hear noone is hurt other then being stunned/shock.
  • thebeavthebeav Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I hope your recovery is swift and smooth......

    Paul
  • raycycaraycyca Posts: 1,655 ✭✭✭
    Thank goodness you and your family are safe! God has smiled on you. Congratulations on being a SAFE coin keeper. You apparently have learned a lesson from other people's mistakes, or are a really smart/lucky person. Too many people find out the hard way about disasters and collectibles. Our coins are in the bank, but, I can't put my antique glass in a vault! I have photos and insurance, BUT, if a fire struck, museum quality pieces would be lost forever.

    I hope others can learn from this disaster. A fire can hard to recover from even if your family is safe. BUT, it can be very costly if your coins burn up too. Many people have no insurance, etc. If their coins were lost for whatever reason, the financial loss could be an even bigger disaster than the fire. I have some coins in my collection that were stolen from a fellow board member during a robbery. HIs gold/platinum coins were broken out from their holders and sold for scrap. But, at least one of his sets were revovered. One sinlge coin I know about was sold on E-bay after the recovery. It sold for $1400. The thieves used a Red Book to price his coins. They had a price tag of $1.50 on the PCGS slab!!! Because of their stupidity, he DID recover more than half of his collection. Sorry about oyur loss, BUT, I'm glad you and your family are safe! Ray
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  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    Sorry to hear that, I hope the rebuilding goes smoothly and your insurance company is cooperative.

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,274 ✭✭✭
    You may get that devastated feeling when you start dealing with your insurance company. Be prepared to bring in someone to do an independent assessment and deal with them.
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  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭
    I am glad that you and your family are in one peice, material things can be replacedimage
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  • slipgateslipgate Posts: 2,301 ✭✭
    Insurance companies suck, simple truth. Do yourself a favor and insist on a public adjuster in the beginning. The insurance company will penalize you for this by taking an EXTRA long time to approve everything but in the end, you will be made whole.

    A friend's house burned last year and the insurance adjuster estimated it at around $50,000, the actual total after the public adjuster came by was over $200,000.

    Not sure what to do? Never fear, after you speak with the insurance company's adjuster, you will not be able to get a public one fast enough.

    I wish you well!

    BTW: in his case the back of his house burned. it took just about a year to get back in the house.
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  • WindycityWindycity Posts: 3,524 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So sorry to hear about this and good luck as you deal with the aftermath. I do think it's telling that one of your first instincts was the safety of your coins and that you went on line to let us know. You are a true collector!
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  • StorkStork Posts: 5,206 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Question: Your neighbor sent you an e-mail??? Did your neighbor not have your phone number? >>

    My neighbors don't have my email or work numbers--a fact that needs to be corrected I'm thinking. Plus, I think you owe your neighbor a really nice dinner or something because it sounds like he called the fire department first and it could have been a bigger loss! Good luck with the recovery process, and I would heed the advice for an independant adjuster...I can hear it now..."Well, this looks like flooding, there was a rainshower last month so this is damage caused by flooding, nope, not covered". Perhaps I am being cynical.

  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Need a reason to keep coins in a bank vault, my house burned down today!....................
    ....................Now that I think about it we really didn't lose anything of importance and minimal value.


    a point that seems to be lost on many when the discussion arises about Bank Box vs. Home Safe is the replacement of the lost coins; they can't be replaced when they're destroyed by a fire or stolen by a thief. the belongings you lost can be easily replaced, glad to hear things weren't worse than you've described and that no family members and no pets were harmed.

    good decision on the bank box.
  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,954 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow, sorry about your house. That's really terrible. Thankfully no one was hurt & you can rebuild. My best wishes to all.

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  • curlycurly Posts: 2,880
    Keep your chin up brother.....remember....you ain't lost nothing till you lose your life.
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  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    Sorry to hear about the fire. I keep all but a few of my coins in my bank box.
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  • Tarmac, Keep an eye on your additonal living expences. The portion of the policy that covers this has a limit and is called "loss of use". Any additional expenses caused by being displaced from the residence during repairs should be covered under this portion of the policy (up to the limit). Hopefully you have a "replacement cost" policy and not an "actual cash value" policy for the reconstruction costs and contents coverage. Good luck!!
  • lavalava Posts: 3,286 ✭✭✭
    You have your health, your faimly, and your coins -- you are to be congratulated for such a good attitude after such a catastrophic event.
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  • Sorry to hear it, I lost everything twice by fire....... Just good to know you didn't suffer any serious losses or injurie's.
  • MJPHELANMJPHELAN Posts: 782 ✭✭✭
    Best wishes for a speedy recovery and rebuild. Glad no one was injured.
    Mark
  • ScarsdaleCoinScarsdaleCoin Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭✭✭
    banks have fire as well.... link
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  • PhillyJoePhillyJoe Posts: 2,701 ✭✭✭✭
    Glad everyone was OK, also.

    This got me thinking; none of my neighbors have a way of contacting me after I leave the house. Might pay them a visit and give them my cell phone number.

    Joe
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  • TorinoCobra71TorinoCobra71 Posts: 8,054 ✭✭✭
    Damn! Sorry to hear you might have lost your house due to an electrical fire. My coins are ALL at the bank in a lock box. (My PCGS slabbed ones, that is.......) My Dansco and Whitman Folders reside in a Fire Resistant Safe.

    TorinoCobra71

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  • TarmacTarmac Posts: 394
    Well, it's been over a week and the reality of what happened finally set in. But things are not so bad. We are safe. Dog is safe but very jumpy. Nothing of great sentimental value or high value loss. Just the house burning but we are insured.

    Ironically what did the most damage was the water from the firefighters!!

    We decided to rebuild and sell, move to another area. Were mulling this over anyway for almost 3 years and this was the motivating event.

    My advice to others out there, if you think it won't happen to you..... Make sure your neighbors have a way yo reach you by cell, or tele or even email. My neighbor [an on the ball guy] emailed me and I was lucky enough to be online at the time.
  • Welcome to insurance hell-- My burned down in '99. Get yourself a lawyer and an adjuster immediately. I hope you kept a policy copy in the back box. The insurance company will do everything to slow things down, try to get you to use their contractors that use junk materials (or for insulation-no materials) and other stuff. You best hope is it must be torn down and you can settle in full, then get your own contractor and start over.
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  • coinlieutenantcoinlieutenant Posts: 9,315 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Super bummer...glad you are ok though...everything else is replaceable. A wife or kid wouldnt be.
  • JJMJJM Posts: 8,039 ✭✭✭✭✭
    sounds like overall you were lucky, hope you and you family regroup quickly.....
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  • gyocomgdgyocomgd Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭
    That's a terrible stroke of bad luck, but I'll second the emotion on everyone being safe.
    Hang in there, it's a big pain in the butt. The same thing has happened to me, only much worse, and time will heal everything.
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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,359 ✭✭✭✭✭
    sorry to read the bad news. Thankfully no one was hurt

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