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coynclectercoynclecter Posts: 2,111
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On 3/4, I listed an item on Ebay . It has a BIN at 229, an almost retail price. On 3/6 this guy does the BIN. Now on 3/9 I get this email

DEAR SIR, I ACCIDENTALLY HIT THE WRONG KEY ON THIS ITEM. I AM SORRY FOR THE INCIDENT. I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN PURCHASING THIS ITEM BUT NEVER AT THIS AMOUNT. PLEASE ADVISE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COUNTER OFFER.


Is he trying to negotiate now that he took the item off the market??

What should I do

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  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    It is e-bay, he is obligated once the item closes. It is up to you to be nice or file a non paying bidder against him/her.
  • TACloughTAClough Posts: 1,598 ✭
    The buyer waits three days before telling you that he made a mistake? Ebay always sends me a comfirmation when I win an item, even a BUY IT NOW, by email shortly after item closes. He should pay or file complaint with eBay. If you want to be a nice guy, charge him your eBay fees plus ten percent restocking fees and then block him from future bidding on your items.

    Tim
  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    File a non-paying bidder complaint!
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,502 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Let's have his ID so the rest of us who are so inclined can block him too.
    JR Newsletter Online Edition
  • bhartman35bhartman35 Posts: 1,398
    First, explain to the guy that he waited 3 days to alert you to the problem, and that in that time you could already have relisted and sold the coin. Then explain to him what a non-paying bidder complaint will do for him on Ebay. See if that shakes him loose. (He might just be trying to haggle and seeing if he can get away with it.) If that fails to move him, file the complaint. I always try to give people every benefit of the doubt, since Ebay allows retaliatory strikes.
    If you haven't noticed, I'm single and miserable and I've got four albums of bitching about it that I would offer as proof.

    -- Adam Duritz, of Counting Crows


    My Ebay Auctions
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  • RonBRonB Posts: 636 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bottom Line is BIN is crystal clear, actually you have to hit two keys,
    BIN and COMMIT. He seems to be trying to play you, but it's your call.
    I would file a NPB and be done with it before the buyer does it again.

    I feel your pain, fortunatly it doesn't happen that often.

    -Ron
    Collector of Classic US Coins
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    AOL user?

    Russ, NCNE
    eBay consignment sales | | Collectibles from Resco CCC
  • szavoriszavori Posts: 134
    File him as Non-Paying Bidder. Too many sleazebayer's out there.
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  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,062 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Out the scumbag image
  • poorguypoorguy Posts: 4,317 ✭
    If you want to be a nice guy, charge him your eBay fees plus ten percent restocking fees and then block him from future bidding on your items.

    Simply file a Mutual Agreement to Not Complete the Transaction in the Dispute Console and your Final Value Fees will be credited.
    Brandon Kelley - ANA - 972.746.9193 - http://www.bestofyesterdaycollectibles.com
  • cswcsw Posts: 432 ✭
    That's low.

    He wants the coin, so he BINs so he can take it off the market while he tries to negotiate a lower price with you. For you, this results in lost auction time, extra effort in relisting it if you don't reach a deal, and the hassle of getting your listing fee back.

    I'd block this guy AND report him to eBay.

    --csw
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    Tiger trout, Deerfield River, c. 2001.

  • poorguypoorguy Posts: 4,317 ✭
    He wants the coin, so he BINs so he can take it off the market while he tries to negotiate a lower price with you. For you, this results in lost auction time, extra effort in relisting it if you don't reach a deal, and the hassle of getting your listing fee back.

    What this guy did is not cool but it does happen. I've gotten one that is worse.

    I send a guy a $15,500 coin which he agrees to the price. He gets the coin and calls me and says if I can't have this coin at $15,000 then this is the last deal I will do with you. The guy totally held our business relationship hostage over the price of a coin. I gave him his $500 off and was very courteous. I thought it was pretty low of him to approach a negotiation this way and will probably not be sending him anymore coins because of it.
    Brandon Kelley - ANA - 972.746.9193 - http://www.bestofyesterdaycollectibles.com
  • OldnewbieOldnewbie Posts: 1,425 ✭✭
    Kennedy collector?
  • TONEDDOLLARSTONEDDOLLARS Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭✭
    Brandon, you sold the toned Morgan in 68?????
    Magic Mirrors


    Rainbow Stars
  • poorguypoorguy Posts: 4,317 ✭
    Brandon, you sold the toned Morgan in 68?????

    No, it was a different coin.
    Brandon Kelley - ANA - 972.746.9193 - http://www.bestofyesterdaycollectibles.com
  • shmort6552shmort6552 Posts: 696
    I agree with RonB. You don't use BIN by accident!!!!
    Out him and block him
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Kennedy collector? >>



    I see we have an AOL user among the crowd. image

    Russ, NCNE
    eBay consignment sales | | Collectibles from Resco CCC
  • OldnewbieOldnewbie Posts: 1,425 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Kennedy collector? >>



    I see we have an AOL user among the crowd. image

    Russ, NCNE >>



    I'd type a witty comeback, but fer' some reason I can't think of one.imageimage
  • LongshotLongshot Posts: 353
    I had a situation where I was in a hurry and hit the "buy it now" key before realizing this person would take only cash (over $1,000 cash). image
    I had serious temptation to ditch the deal (which I have never done before) but did some research on the guy and it appears he is on the up and up. I hope to get my package in a couple weeks. (fingers crossed).
  • LongshotLongshot Posts: 353
    Just made member status! Woohoo!!!image
  • coinnut86coinnut86 Posts: 1,592 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Just made member status! Woohoo!!!image >>



    barely.. I'd say it was almost a longshot image
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  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777 ✭
    Kennedy collector?

    Those damn hairyhead collectors.... image

    I would tell the guy that you will file a nonpaying bidder complaint- I think he's just trying to play you....
    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable !
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,350 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Just made member status! Woohoo!!!image >>



    Its customary to have a giveaway when this happens. image




    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Just made member status! Woohoo!!!image >>



    Its customary to have a giveaway when this happens. image >>



    count me in, and thank you for your generous giveaway
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I had a situation where I was in a hurry and hit the "buy it now" key before realizing this person would take only cash (over $1,000 cash).
    I had serious temptation to ditch the deal (which I have never done before) but did some research on the guy and it appears he is on the up and up. I hope to get my package in a couple weeks. (fingers crossed). >>



    You chose a suitable forum handle.

    Russ, NCNE
    eBay consignment sales | | Collectibles from Resco CCC
  • patmcaupatmcau Posts: 6
    "What should I do"

    Good question...Here was some advise given by a forum member in a similar situation and thread over on the currency forum...

    "Don't be petty. Obviously 20 bucks is a lot to him. Let it go, don't neg him, and ask him not to put you on his "fav" list...in fact not to bid on your items at all.


    Can't believe all the petty people who want to ream him over such a small item."

    The poster that wrote this was.........none other than coynclecter...


    Thread
    "Never argue with a fool...People might not know the difference."
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,442 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>"What should I do"

    Good question...Here was some advise given by a forum member in a similar situation and thread over on the currency forum...

    "Don't be petty. Obviously 20 bucks is a lot to him. Let it go, don't neg him, and ask him not to put you on his "fav" list...in fact not to bid on your items at all.


    Can't believe all the petty people who want to ream him over such a small item."

    The poster that wrote this was.........none other than coynclecter...


    Thread >>



    Well, not to be petty, cuz I ain't got the money and stature of Laura or Stewart, David Hall or Warren Buffet, but there is a little difference between twenty bucks and two hundred twenty nine dollars. Don't you think ?

    In all fairness to the thread author, he only asked "what to do".

    My opinion and course of action is "write it off" it is a loss, treat it as such and move on. Don't cry over spilt milk, re list the item at face value and no reserve and see what the orb is really worth ! No brainer, once again.

    As for the bidder ? Don't do anything. Ignore it. It's gone.
  • alfalfaalfalfa Posts: 275 ✭✭
    LOL, Pat!

    RJ
  • patmcaupatmcau Posts: 6
    "Well, not to be petty, cuz I ain't got the money and stature of Laura or Stewart, David Hall or Warren Buffet, but there is a little difference between twenty bucks and two hundred twenty nine dollars."

    Well "cuz", it looks to me like a case of the proverbial shoe being on the other foot...

    "In all fairness to the thread author, he only asked "what to do"."

    And I responded...Follow his own advice....

    Edited to add:

    I couldn't resist RJ...
    "Never argue with a fool...People might not know the difference."
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,442 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>"Well, not to be petty, cuz I ain't got the money and stature of Laura or Stewart, David Hall or Warren Buffet, but there is a little difference between twenty bucks and two hundred twenty nine dollars."

    Well "cuz", it looks to me like a case of the proverbial shoe being on the other foot...

    "In all fairness to the thread author, he only asked "what to do"."

    And I responded...Follow his own advice....

    Edited to add:

    I couldn't resist RJ... >>



    image
    point taken... Touche' .... LOL ... and it's all good.
  • Conder101Conder101 Posts: 10,536 ✭


    << <i>I send a guy a $15,500 coin which he agrees to the price. He gets the coin and calls me and says if I can't have this coin at $15,000 then this is the last deal I will do with you. The guy totally held our business relationship hostage over the price of a coin. I gave him his $500 off and was very courteous. I thought it was pretty low of him to approach a negotiation this way and will probably not be sending him anymore coins because of it. >>


    Not only would I not be sending him anymore coins, but I would inform every dealer I knew of his actions. I would do my best to make sure that NO ONE else is willing to send him coins.
  • LongshotLongshot Posts: 353


    << <i>

    << <i>Just made member status! Woohoo!!!image >>



    Its customary to have a giveaway when this happens. image >>



    image

    OK, I'll shut up now...

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