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GeomanGeoman Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭
A rare $10,000 bill is getting a new home. The bill — one of 15 large-denomination bills at a Chase Bank branch in Green Bay — was shipped to the bank's corporate archives in New York for safe keeping.

The $10,000 bill bears the likeness of Salmon P. Chase, for whom the bank was named. Chase was a U.S. senator who served as treasury secretary under President Lincoln.

The large bill was discovered in a bank customer's safety deposit box after the owner died 20 years ago. The woman's family exchanged the currency at face value, and the bank stored the bill in a plastic sleeve for protection.

Damn, they turned it in for face value?!?!? Wish I could find something like that!

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  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Damn, they turned it in for face value?!?!? Wish I could find something like that! >>



    But banks are not crooks. COIN DEALERS are crooks.

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  • anyone have any thoughts on its potential value?
  • GeomanGeoman Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭
    anyone have any thoughts on its potential value?

    that's where I was hoping this thread would lead. Also, do you think they have any recourse to buy back the $10,000 bill? I sure would hire a lawyer and have a looks see.
  • MichiganMichigan Posts: 4,942


    << <i>anyone have any thoughts on its potential value? >>





    Depending on condition I would estimate $60,000 to $80,000.
  • GeomanGeoman Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭
    oops, double post.
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    Talk about blowing a golden opportunity!

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  • JulianJulian Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭
    I believe that there is a banking regulation requiring all currency, with a face value higher than $100, that is turned into banks, be turned back to the Federal Reserve.
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  • robertprrobertpr Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭
    Boy, there really are some monumentally stupid people out there.
  • PhillyJoePhillyJoe Posts: 2,701 ✭✭✭✭
    Pretty slimey on the bank's part. "Hi, you have a semi-priceless bill which is a valuable part of our bank's history and will offer you a full $10,000 cash for the $10,000 bill even though it is old and not crisp like our 10,000 $1 bills."

    The family looks at it as found money; the bank looks at it as found treasure.

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  • OuthaulOuthaul Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Whoa there...how much was it worth twenty years ago? The article says nothing about when it was redeemed. But from reading the article I would say twenty years ago.

    Cheers,

    Bob
  • sadysta1sadysta1 Posts: 1,309 ✭✭✭
    I think it was SN #1 note too.
  • ..............I saw one for sale last week for $125,000...........................image
  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Pretty slimey on the bank's part. "Hi, you have a semi-priceless bill which is a valuable part of our bank's history and will offer you a full $10,000 cash for the $10,000 bill even though it is old and not crisp like our 10,000 $1 bills."

    The family looks at it as found money; the bank looks at it as found treasure.

    Joe >>


    Couldn't agree more.
    Al
  • TheRavenTheRaven Posts: 4,143 ✭✭✭✭
    Amazing that the family would just turn the bill in and not at least try and see if it was worth more then 10 grand.....

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  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,274 ✭✭✭
    It may be worth less than $10,000 because it was essentially already redeemed.



    "There are also several hundred cancelled $10000 gold certificates from the series of 1900. These are not part of the above population count, as they had been recalled and cancelled, and are thus no longer obligations of the federal government. They are out there as a result of a fire in the treasury building in 1936, at which point a box full of these ended up in the street! They are worth far less than 10000 dollars...."
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  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    Those gold certificates of 1900 didn't have Chase's portrait.

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

  • jmbjmb Posts: 594 ✭✭✭
    The $10K bills you're referring to have Andrew Jackson pictured, NOT Chase. The $10K's featuring Chase are worth $50K in average condition all the way up to $250K based on year, district, condition and serial number.
  • TheRavenTheRaven Posts: 4,143 ✭✭✭✭
    I would also assume that these cancelled bills are maked as such in some manor.....
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  • OuthaulOuthaul Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭✭✭
    And still, everyone is assuming that the transaction took place recently. The story is about Chase Bank transferring the bill elsewhere. As an aside, the origin of the note is revealed. It never mentions when the transaction took place.

    If it took place twenty years ago when it was discovered, how much was it worth then?

    GREEN BAY, Wis. - A rare $10,000 bill is getting a new home. The bill — one of 15 large-denomination bills at a Chase Bank branch in Green Bay — was shipped to the bank's corporate archives in New York for safe keeping.

    The $10,000 bill bears the likeness of Salmon P. Chase, for whom the bank was named. Chase was a U.S. senator who served as treasury secretary under President Lincoln.

    The large bill was discovered in a bank customer's safety deposit box after the owner died 20 years ago. The woman's family exchanged the currency at face value, and the bank stored the bill in a plastic sleeve for protection.

    But bank officials decided the bills would be safer at the JP Morgan Chase & Co. corporate office in New York. The bank sent the bills there last month by armored truck.

    The government stopped printing bills larger than $100 in 1945 and hasn't issued any since 1969. The Green Bay bills were printed in 1934.

    "The bills had been in our vault so long that many of us were sad to see them go, but we're glad to know that historic bills will be properly preserved," said Green Bay branch manager Carrie Liebhauser.

  • flaminioflaminio Posts: 5,664 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Depending on condition I would estimate $60,000 to $80,000. >>

    The old geezer probably could have made even more if he had invested the $10,000 rather than squirreling the bill away in his safe box.
  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Amazing that the family would just turn the bill in and not at least try and see if it was worth more then 10 grand..... >>



    You GOTTA get out more. Do you have any IDEA what the ...modern.... average.... American family does when it sees an amount as HIGH as ..... ten grand?

    You can get KILLED for ten bucks. The family just didn't want to:

    a. Get involved
    b. Pay some taxes
    c. Make a fuss
    d. Have to learn something
    e. Other

    $10,000 is more money than ....AVERAGE.... US families could scrape up in a month.....without having to mortgage their house.

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    hey, don't blame the bank.

    Lets consider banking rules.

    1. You put your money in, they charge you a fee to hold it
    2. You put enough money in, they give you a fraction of what they make off it investing it , cuz yer too skeered
    3. They charge you interest on a loan of the money you borrow (and you borrowed your own money).
    4. You pay an overdraft fee on a bad check that the bank won't back with your own money because your deposit went in on saturday but didn't post til monday night.
    5. They give you a debit card and charge you a dollar or two to use it every time you use it.

    Why would they give more than ten grand for ten grand ? I ask you this:

    Why would anyone bank at a bank ?....

    CREDIT, that's why !... and the people who sold it to the bank for ten grand , well, I can only say this:

    80% of the people reserve the right to remain ignorant image The other 20% are too desparate to care.
  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭
    Damn, they turned it in for face value?!?!? Wish I could find something like that!

    Sounds like a job for the Bank Posse™
  • You forgot to mention that when you deposit a large amount of cash the bank will charge you a fee to make the deposit. Obstensively for counting the amount deposited, etc.
    I am surprised they got $10k for the bill. I would have thought a service fee would have been charged.
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  • BlackhawkBlackhawk Posts: 3,899 ✭✭✭
    The bank screwed the family. I'm sure that the greed factor was high when they could suddenly come upon a rare note with the picture of Chase on it, but in the true spirit of Milburn Drysdale, they kindly gave them face value instead of directing the family to call an auction house. Pretty Slimey.
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  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭


    << <i>You forgot to mention that when you deposit a large amount of cash the bank will charge you a fee to make the deposit. Obstensively for counting the amount deposited, etc.
    I am surprised they got $10k for the bill. I would have thought a service fee would have been charged. >>




    I would think that one 10,000.00 bill would not amount to much of a challenge to count and would not take up much time to count.........even for the most moronic bank teller on the face of the planet.
  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>even for the most moronic bank teller on the face of the planet >>



    Wrong, goose. You forget that MULTIPLICATION would be needed. 1 times 10,000. A stumper without a calculator. Service charge was warranted. They should be thankful that it was ....waived.

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  • relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570

    I lost a $10,000 bill. I bet it's mine.
    Yeah, that's the ticket. It's my $10,000 bill
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  • SlangNRoxSlangNRox Posts: 774 ✭✭
    At least the bank didn't say it was a fake and confiscate it.
  • OldnewbieOldnewbie Posts: 1,425 ✭✭
    I see why you're icon's pulling his hair out, Outhaul.imageimage
  • nankrautnankraut Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭
    "You forgot to mention that when you deposit a large amount of cash the bank will charge you a fee to make the deposit. Obstensively for counting the amount deposited, etc.
    I am surprised they got $10k for the bill. I would have thought a service fee would have been charged."

    Let's see now....How long would it take to count a $10,000.00 bill? " Uh, 1". That didn't take long.
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  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,237 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A few years ago my sister spent sometime at a Casino in the old mining towns west of Denver of of I-70 in the Rockies. She hit a jackpot on a slot machine and won $1,000.00. The machine spit out $1,000.00 in dollar coins. My sister put them in a plastic bucket and went to the casino cashier to cash in the coins. The cashier gave her 5 $100.00 bills and a $500.00 bill.

    She took the cash and the next day went to her bank, filled out a deposit slip and deposited her $1,000.00 in 6 bills.

    The next day she called me and told me of her good luck and of the fact that she got a $500.00 bill. I got excited and asked her if she still has it and if she would sell it to me. She said she deposited it in her checking account. I told her that $500.00 bills have not been made in decades and that even if it was in worn condition she could probably sell it for $700.00. She was bummed and said "I didn't know". I said "you know what my hobby is, why didn't you call me first".

    What a bummer for her and for me. I would have paid her a profit on the $500.00 bill just so I could have one. I am sure the bank teller and the branch manager were very happy to take my sister's deposit. Someone at the bank probably took the $500.00 bill and replaced it with $500.00 in twenties, then resold the bill for a profit.

    Oh well, at least I have something I can rag on my sister about forever. In that respect, it is a good story.
  • FullStrikeFullStrike Posts: 4,353 ✭✭✭
    Sounds to me like the note was redeemed 20 years ago, when it was discovered in the bank box of the guy who died. I'll bet the family that redeemed was thrilled to get $10,000.00 rather than to be told something like " sorry, this is not real money".

    When I was around 4 years old I found a cloth bag full of 1943 Steel Pennies in my grandmothers attic, under some floorboards. This was around 1959. My grandmother promptly took the small hoard to the Bank and deposited them into her account. To this day my Dad laments the fact that she did this to his stash of steel pennies. This is nothing compared to a $10,000.00 note but still it's an illustration of what most non-collecting people do with " found money".
  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,031 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I happen to have 200 unopened obw rolls of 1958 cent rolls with the log Chase Manhattan Bank on the pretty colored paper rolls. A senior Chase Bank executive was desperate to get his hands on those rolls at $15 each in early 2003 for a surprise 45th anniversary office party of some sort (possibly a retirement party).

    I turned him down cold.

    I feel much better now that I did so.

    I used to gawk at the Chase money museum as a kid in New York City back in the 1960's. It crushed me when they got rid of it which was why I did not have the same feelings for Chase in 2003.

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  • FullStepJeffsFullStepJeffs Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭
    This thread just reminds me... before I die the coins must be sold.

    Peace!

    Steve
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