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Why you should NEVER, I repeat, NEVER ship a slabbed coin in a #10 envelope...

RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
...Even if you do use a Safe-T-Mailer. This arrived in the mail today:

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You may get away with it sometimes if the post office doesn't run it through the sorting machine, but if they do that is what will happen.

Russ, NCNE

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  • BunkerBunker Posts: 3,926
    Ouch! That sucks
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  • Please tell me it was insured ? This is unacceptable. What will you do ?

    Tom
  • GaCoinGuyGaCoinGuy Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭✭
    Maybe the shipper knew you were gonna resubmit it and just wanted to help ya crack it?image



    Looks ok, hows that small spot on the reverse that looked like it got exposed?
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  • Amen, Russ!
  • I always ship USPS Priority Insured Mail.

    I think they ran over that slab with a truck.
  • You should get one of those sorters to crack slabs image

    But Russ, you'd probably have cracked it out, dipped it, and get a 68DCAM anyways image
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  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,254 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Oy, I just shipped out more than 20 coins in pcgs plastic in those padded envelopes. image
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,330 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Please tell me it was insured ? This is unacceptable. What will you do ? >>



    A simple reholder is all it needs; the coin is NOT damaged. I would go after the shipper and not the PO. I use that very method too, BUT ONLY with registered mail.
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  • dizzyfoxxdizzyfoxx Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭
    Perhaps this was done prior to shipping with the "old coin switch-a-roo"???imageimageimage
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  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I hate when I get coins in envelopes. I haven't gotten a cracked one yet luckily. When I ship I always send them in a box.

    Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.

  • LincolnCentManLincolnCentMan Posts: 5,347 ✭✭✭✭
    I had that happen to me with a PCGS MS65BN 1914-D lincoln. I bought it from Teletrade. Nothing like getting a multi-thousand dollar coin in a #10 envenlope with a mear 16th of an inch of cardboard on each side to "protect" it. That's probably the second madest I've ever been over a coin.

    David
  • dizzyfoxxdizzyfoxx Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I had that happen to me with a PCGS MS65BN 1914-D lincoln. I bought it from Teletrade. Nothing like getting a multi-thousand dollar coin in a #10 envenlope with a mear 16th of an inch of cardboard on each side to "protect" it. That's probably the second madest I've ever been over a coin.

    David >>



    And the first???image
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  • I did the exact same thing ONCE. I took it to FUN with me and HRH had it reholdered on the spot. Very class move!!

    Jack

  • I worked in the mail room for a big company years ago we had a sorter and would ram the envelopes through the machine. My bosses told us it's their fault for using the wrong envelope.
    If there in an envelope they must go through the machine.
  • TUMUSSTUMUSS Posts: 2,207
    Look on the bright side.....saved you the effort of "cracking" it out of the slab image
  • LeeGLeeG Posts: 12,162
    I had an Oregon in 65 arrive a couple weeks ago just like that. Seller took it back to have it reholderedimage
  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    Thing is, sometimes people want it left in the old holder. You won't get a choice with this...
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>A simple reholder is all it needs; the coin is NOT damaged. >>



    Yep, it'll go in for reholder. I would like to have had it in the green label slab, though. Would have added a little variety to the Birthmark Die family.

    Russ, NCNE
  • #10 ?

    is that yur basic letter envelope ?
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  • Sure it wasn't like that b-4 it went into the envelope? Something really heavy had to pounce on it to crack it like that.image


    Tom
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  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>A simple reholder is all it needs; the coin is NOT damaged. >>



    Yep, it'll go in for reholder. I would like to have had it in the green label slab, though. Would have added a little variety to the Birthmark Die family.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Does PCGS still reholder with a previous tag upon request?

    Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.

  • I have had a few arrive that way.
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,330 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Yep, it'll go in for reholder. I would like to have had it in the green label slab, though. Would have added a little variety to the Birthmark Die family. >>



    Its a darn cryin shame that they can't/won't reholder using the original label; esp considering the circumstances. GRRR!!!
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  • coinlieutenantcoinlieutenant Posts: 9,320 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I learned that lesson too Russ...only registered gets shipped that way now.

    J
  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>A simple reholder is all it needs; the coin is NOT damaged. >>



    Yep, it'll go in for reholder. I would like to have had it in the green label slab, though. Would have added a little variety to the Birthmark Die family.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Does PCGS still reholder with a previous tag upon request? >>

    Nope, never.
  • dragondragon Posts: 4,548 ✭✭
    You have to print on the outside of the envelope to 'hand stamp only' if you ship that way.
  • BikingnutBikingnut Posts: 3,426 ✭✭✭✭
    Yep, it'll go in for reholder. I would like to have had it in the green label slab, though. Would have added a little variety to the Birthmark Die family.

    Can't you request that PCGS use the same label?

    Dennis
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  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭


    I also had the exact same experience this week on a coin won on Ebay ; an 1896-O Barber Half Dollar in a PCGS VF20 holder. It was also sent in a corragated mailer in a #10 envelope. It was cracked along the top of the coin, same as this proof Kennedy. The seller will make it right, but I may just keep the coin "as is" as I was planning on cracking one of my few duplicates of the 96-O halves for my raw book. I guess that this coin was elected to be cracked out. ( Would've preferred one of the ANACS halves to have gotten the axe ! )
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Can't you request that PCGS use the same label? >>



    Nope, they won't do it.

    Russ, NCNE
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,867 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you use a No.10 envelope with a corregated mailer and send a slab registered mail, is there still a problem with the USPS breaking slabs? Isn't registered mail handled differently than insured mail?

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  • <Oy, I just shipped out more than 20 coins in pcgs plastic in those padded envelopes>

    I think padded envelopes with the coin also placed between an additional layer of bubble wrap or safe-t-mailer is too thick for the machines so the slabs won't crack. I've shipped loads that way with no problem.

    I had a return in a #10 envelope (regular business envelope) and the slab got to me like Russ' did. PCGS reholdered it.

    A well respected and experienced forum member sent me a coin packed like that (#10 w/ Safe-T-mailer) by Registered mail. It arrived safely. I assume he has sent many that way.
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  • BigD5BigD5 Posts: 3,433
    I haven't had one of those in a while. Brings out some haunting memories..........
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  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,330 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If you use a No.10 envelope with a corregated mailer and send a slab registered mail, is there still a problem with the USPS breaking slabs? Isn't registered mail handled differently than insured mail? >>



    Generally registered is physically safer as well as security safer BUT I spose its possible to have something damaged. You can ask them to stamp it fragile. I have sent a few slabs in safe-T mailers via first class and bin lucky so far. Staples used to sell a nice "padded" envelope but the last time I went to buy some they dint have them.
    theknowitalltroll;
  • TorinoCobra71TorinoCobra71 Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭
    That suxs Russ, but from the look of it your were gonna crack it out and dip it/send it to NCS anyways......

    TorinoCobra71

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