04/05 Exquisite $800 a pack!
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I might have considered a pack @ $500, but no chance in hell @ that price with this RC class.
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The new money coming into the market is drying up or getting tied up in expensive new boxes. Despite what some members here think, there isn't a flood of younger buyers buying vintage. I live in Detroit and the vintage tables usually have the same people buying cards.
Brian
You're right, though--on the balance I think this kind of stuff is really bad for the hobby. Not as bad as the huge print runs of the '80's, perhaps, but still pretty bad. The problem with the hobby is that card companies are constantly looking for new ways to kill the golden goose. Look at those print runs from '87-'94; a lot of people loaded up on that stuff, got burned VERY badly, and will never, ever be buying another sports card again. If they hadn't screwed with the print runs so bad a lot of that unopened stuff would probably carry at least a small premium by now.
Ditto for this 'lotto pack' BS. For $800 a guy could buy however-many boxes of Bowman Chrome, and end up twice as happy. True, you can't protect people from themselves. But in the interests of long term viability Upper Deck and friends should be doing what they can to make busting packs as rewarding an experience as possible. And spending eight hundred bones for a handful of base cards and a Dirk Nowitzski Auto/15 is definitely not rewarding.
You really do pay too much for the pleasure of opening the packs, which is why I no longer do it. I'd love to, but I just can't justify it.
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On Exquisite - greed on the wholesale level is fueling the case prices. People think that this year's will be as hot as last year's, but with the novelty gone, and no Wade, Lebron, or Carmelo rookie pieces, there is going to have to be some crazy stuff in there to get your money back at $2500 a case. $2500 for 15 cards? Yikes.
<< <i>Sure Boopotts - But every time someone gets burned badly, they are more likely never to come back. I was at large local show this weekend and there were a lot of younger people (18-35) who were bringing in their entire collections because they are "getting out".
The new money coming into the market is drying up or getting tied up in expensive new boxes. Despite what some members here think, there isn't a flood of younger buyers buying vintage. I live in Detroit and the vintage tables usually have the same people buying cards. >>
GOOD!!!! MORE FOR US!!!!
All ya need is 3-4 people doing the same vintage set on ebay with deep pockets or an EYE for centering and you got yourself a NIGHTMARE trying to get cards.....All ya need is 1 finatic (sp?) who thinks every card from 1957 should be THEIRS and bids 300 on a psa 7 common (when centered- like maybe lafayette) and you got an impossible set. When i was doing my 56 set there always this collector/dealer who would bid regardless of card....For some reason i cant recall his name....brain block from frustration prollly...HE must have done a search every 4 days and bid on cards.....if the card was a 12 dollar SMR psa 6 common but was centered he would bid 20.....it made is really tough.
with an influx of only 3-4 people in the United States doing a PSA graded set from a single year.....the prices will be maintained and may go up....we dont need 1000's a year.
loth
Upper Deck created to situation with the surprise release of this product. They were not expected to issue Exquisite again and even said so. The product and release announcement basically came at the same time. To top it off it looks like they did not make much product, with some dealers getting shut out and now having to buy at over $500 per tin.
In a weak defense, there are some auto cards of last years rookie class. I think most are printing plates.
This is typical Upper Deck and a good reason to stay away from most of their stuff.
to every man his own...
GG
"... patience is a learned tool and many simply can't do it."
Well said! It's tough for some, I guess, when you can't rush out, buy a box or case, and open it up looking for the big score. My almost unlimited amount of patience really pays off sometimes. I've always been a set collector and that takes a LOT of patience. For instance, I finally completed my '62T and '63T raw baseball sets in the late 1980s (after taking time off for the service and college) and completed my '68T set just last year.
btw, being a set collector is probably another reason I stopped buying for awhile in '92 or so (after having started buying again in 1981). With so many sets, and the price of packs going so high, I just got overwhelmed and stopped until just last year when I started filling in my Kirby Kollection.
Time always shows who the real collectors are...
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