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PCGS Designates "Speared Bison"

Just wondering if I'm the only one to notice the pop reports have been updated with the 2005 Bison P, D and D "Speared Bison" variety...

Man... that was quick... wasn't it last week Gawd asked if the huddled masses if they even wanted it to be designated?

Congratulations Neptune... and others current hoarders!image

(I wonder if the people across the street are playing too?)

Steve
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  • It's amazing how fast PCGS will move for a new "variety" (die gouge? die break?), yet there's still many varieties, even redbook ones, that they don't recognize yet.

    I guess it does make good economic sense for them, they're hoping to get all these new coins in their holders instead of ANACS, but still... they do need to get up to speed with variety attribution overall.

    Congrats and Good luck to those who own these coins, you've just made a fortune on your eBay sales.
    Varieties are the spice of a Type Set.

    Need more $$$ for coins?
  • quarterguyquarterguy Posts: 449 ✭✭
    Speared Bison??? Does anyone have a picture of this coin???

    Thanks
  • ScarsdaleCoinScarsdaleCoin Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭✭✭
    be very interesting to see if there is much interest in this one....not that exciting to me...but what do I know...
    Jon Lerner - Scarsdale Coin - www.CoinHelp.com
  • dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,735 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I started a thread on this yesterday.
    Collector and Researcher of Liberty Head Nickels. ANA LM-6053
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    Yes, those are the 8 that I just got back today. I was quite excited to get them, even though some of the forum members have been quite nasty about it.
    Turnaround time was wonderful - one week there and back! They have been very nice to me. My grades for the first 8 were 4 each of 64 and 65 with the Discovery coin being a 65.

    That was the good news that offset the bad news when my son called to tell me he is going to Iraq just as I was photoing the slab above. Guess you have to take the bad with the good in life.

    I do have a 66 from NGC, and more 65's and a 64 from ANACS.
    Sold a raw one last nite on eBay for $207 - started it at 9.99. I do have an ANACS slabbed 65 up that ends in a few days. Username: TxRok if you are interested in seeing a 'close up' photo of the spear itself.
  • dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,735 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It is a sad day when they will designate a die crack, but not legitimate varieties.
    Collector and Researcher of Liberty Head Nickels. ANA LM-6053
  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,694 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It is a sad day when they will designate a die crack, but not legitimate varieties. >>



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    Does this mean that the "variety" will now be included in the registry? Should be very interesting to see where the insanity ends.

    Neptune- you seem to think any criticism of your coins or your discovery is criticism of you - can't I think this is horrible for the hobby and still respect you in the morning?


    Sean Reynolds
    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

    "Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
  • Sean - Agreeing to disagree is a good thing. image

    BTW - Thanks FullStep!
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    May your profits be obscene!

    Russ, NCNE
  • DAMDAM Posts: 2,410 ✭✭
    << It is a sad day when they will designate a die crack, but not legitimate varieties. >>

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    Congrats Neptune!!

    Nothing personal meant by my agreement with the above statement. My problem is with PCGS and their unwillingness to accomidate collectors by recognizing popular varieties.

    It seems PCGS is willing to ride the modern wave, while ignoring what's been long accepted as collectable varieties.




    Dan
  • dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,735 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It is a sad day when they will designate a die crack, but not legitimate varieties. >>



    I was wrong. The experts call this a die gouge.
    Collector and Researcher of Liberty Head Nickels. ANA LM-6053
  • DAMDAM Posts: 2,410 ✭✭
    I was wrong. The experts call this a die gouge.

    Regardless, all the best to Neptune, but PCGS has got to get with the program.



    Dan
  • Congratulations to all speared bison owners!

    I find it amazing that PCGS has decided to recognize this variety over other more significant Jefferson varieties.

    Hey PCGS what about Cherrypickers, Breen, maybe the 1964 SMS, overdates (53 D over D or 58 D over D), to name a few other varities?

    Not to offend anyone but his seems like a pure marketing decision by PCGS.

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  • dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,735 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have seen a 1964 SMS, so they do that one.
    Collector and Researcher of Liberty Head Nickels. ANA LM-6053
  • RodiusRodius Posts: 857
    Congratulations on the finds and the grades. I wounder how many are out there total. Any other finds from the forum besides yours?? Link to autions

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  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭


    << <i>It is a sad day when they will designate a die crack, but not legitimate varieties. >>




    MY SENTIMENTS EXACTLY!

    KinKoin, king of coins or whomever he is today on here has a legitimate "beef" over his PMM quarter now.


    I find it difficult to believe PCGS would immediately jump on such a minor thing but I suppose it's no more lame than "First Strike" or some of the other things that are done.
  • RBinTexRBinTex Posts: 4,328
    "It is a sad day when they will designate a die crack, but not legitimate varieties."

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    "I find it amazing that PCGS has decided to recognize this variety over other more significant Jefferson varieties.
    Hey PCGS what about Cherrypickers, Breen, maybe the 1964 SMS, overdates (53 D over D or 58 D over D), to name a few other varities?
    Not to offend anyone but his seems like a pure marketing decision by PCGS."


    image

    "My problem is with PCGS and their unwillingness to accomidate collectors by recognizing popular varieties.
    It seems PCGS is willing to ride the modern wave, while ignoring what's been long accepted as collectable varieties."


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    What is really frustrating is that they won't even publish a SPECIFIC list of criteria by which a particular variety will be added to the pop report. Why can't they just say if a specific number have been certified in mint error holders or if NGC has it in their pop report, or if it is a Cherrypickers variety, or if ANACS has it in their pop reports, or whatever. image

    Wasn't there some hard & fast rule a long time ago that if you could show them that 5 were already graded they would add it to the pop report? image

    Hey, if it's all about money, just tell us how much is needed to add a particular coin to the pop report - maybe we can take up a collection. image
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