Updated information on 1980 Topps Baseball PSA 8,9,& 10.
RobE
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Most of you don't, but if you happen to follow the 1980 Topps set,around March of 2002, in PSA 8, or better, I choose to build it since it was a childhood favorite and nobody else was interested in 1980 Topps,so I thought.Thanks to a Dog named Bear,my set breakup came 18 months later,slightly over 7% short of the 100% mark.Oh well,I still love 1980 Topps just as much, it's still a pleasure to be a part of it,only if to applaud those diligently working on it.One thing I look forward to, is a possible debut,including many of my old cards at 100%,with a GPA that could rival Ron Ritt's 68 GPA.
Presently,it's still impossible to complete this set.Although I predict,by the end of 05 - one out of 3 people will reach 100%.Possibly two.In 2002,there were 5 active players, but 3 since bailed.It's surprising how many cards are readily available,how much the population has exploded, but nobody reached 100% after 3 years and the top guy is stuck at 83%!Two collectors are really close to the finish line,but they've hit the stone wall at the same point I did.Around the high 70s to 80% range,I really couldn't do much towards completion,although was able to upgrade many 9s to some of the first 200 very beautiful,accurately graded PSA 10s.Many of which now reside in the top sets,or soon will.
With all the inconsistency controversy,I wonder if many of the early submitted 8s were actually much better than what's coming up in today's 9s.Thinking many have a chance in hell,I'm curious if anyone has ever cracked out and resubmitted an 8 they got from me?For example,the PSA 8 389 Pete LaC-ock was severely undergraded as many other of my 8s were,too.Unfortunately,hardly any current set builders want 8s,so many I had went to those who dabble just picking sporadically throughout the set.I think LaC-ock and Shane Rawley are the only 2 1/1 8s that wound up with actual set builders.Right now,I can't locate anyone to share much of anything on resubmitted cards.
In my notes listed below,cards like the 555 Figgy have a 1/1 10 pop and 2 9s.For some reason, I didn't list them and other cards due to lack of information,I guess.As well,others like the 666 Tigers Rookies are both 1/1 in 8 and a 10.Also,there are a bunch of team and player set collectors who snatched up a bunch of 1/1 9s who won't give up things even if they upgraded and I'm not sure how to organize all that sort of information at this time.
The Dave Kingman 10 was a pop 2,but I guess not.It now resides in a Kingman freaks collection.The Stolen Base Leaders 10 is also gone forever for a set builder but happily resides in Pebbly Jack's collection along with the Royals team somewhere in the registry,both are 1/1s.You can forget about the Trammel 10,too which was a DGF 10.I went to buy back the 1/2 NYY Team from Gator, but it appears to be lost somewhere in his move.The other NYY TC was sold twice two years ago,never to hit ebay ever again and don't think it's anywhere on the registry.The Astros Team 1/1 is in Ellington CT,the Astros variation 8 (without mgr's name) I don't know who wound up with it, but did sell it in 2002,unknowing at the time it was a variation.My Reds team 10 is in Ohio somewhere,Jeff Van Neil has the other one,so you can probably forget those two.
That being said, there's quite a bit to be up against for a while,but it's not impossible to accomplish something when high population cards,including many stars are at buyers prices right now.Certainly a great deal if you can purchase quantity.Every now and then,one of the important low populations needed to complete a set will reach a 2002 price,but if you stay away from those you'll reach 50%,or so,inexpensively and rather quickly.Might not be a 61 or 69 set,but commons included,it's a nice run of players - 1 to 726.
Lou Brock's final active career card and it's not a full stat card,McCovey's final career card.For Rookies - Sutcliffe,Stieb,Orosco,Hatcher.Lots of HOFERS either early in their career or in midway through.Current Managers from many of today's ball clubs.Guys like Staub,Kaat,Perry
and others with lengthy careers.Like I said, a nice run of players.
Old Notes from 12/24/2003:
A few interesting notes on approximately 75 cards and population.
On 12/24 to have a 100% complete 1980 Topps set was impossible and still is as of 3/31/05 although much has changed.
1) 6 DEL UNSER - two 8s and one 9O/C
2) 14 DAVE CASH two 8s no 9s
3) 29 MARK WAGNER 1/1 8 and nothing else
4) 49 MARIO GUERRERO 1/1 8 and nothing else
5) 67 DOYLE ALEXANDER 1/1 8 and nothing else
6) 68 LARRY HARLOW 1/1 8 and nothing else
7) 82 ASTROS TEAM MGR. BILL VIRDON 1/1 9
8) 82 ASTROS TEAM 1/1 8 and nothing else Could this be a variation without Mgr name?
9) 92 RICK RHODEN 1/1 8 and nothing else
10) 138 ROSS BAUMGARTEN two 8s and nothing else
11) 140 RICH GOSSAGE two 8s and one 8Q
12) 214 ANGELS TEAM MGR. JIM FREGOSI four 8s no 9s one 10
13) 227 LEN BARKER two 8s and nothing else
14) 263 DAVE LaROCHE two 8s and nothing else
15) 279 ROB ANDREWS two 8s and nothing else
16) 305 RANDY JONES only one 7 and one 8
17) 331 RICH HEBNER four 9s and one 8
18) 331 RICH HEBNER one 8 and one 8Q possible unidentified variation (Please see PSA population report for further details)
19) 387 FRED STANLEY NAME IN RED 2 8s 3 9's
20) 387 FRED STANLEY one 8 two 10s No variation specified
21) 387 FRED STANLEY NAME IN YELLOW One 7 (1/1 8 2005)
22) 389 PETE LaC-OCK 1/1 8 and nothing else
23) 391 TONY ARMAS two 8 no 9s
24) 398 BARRY FOOTE four 8s and nothing else
25) 410 BOBBY BONDS two 8s and nothing else
26) 420 BUTCH HOBSON two 8s and nothing else
27) 421 DOUG BIRD 1/1 8 and nothing else
28) 422 LARRY MILBOURNE 1/1 8 and nothing else
29) 452 STEVE DILLARD 1/1 8 and nothing else
30) 487 WAYNE NORDHAGEN 1/1 8 and nothing else
31) 496 SILVIO MARTINEZ two 8s and nothing else
32) 507 LEON ROBERTS two 8s and nothing else
33) 523 KEN HENDERSON two 8s and nothing else
34) 560 DAVE LOPES two 8s and nothing else
35) 563 WILL McENANEY 1/1 8 and nothing else
36) 619 SERGIO FERRER only 1 9Q
37) 649 TOM GRIFFIN two 8s and nothing else
38) 666 TIGERS FUTURE STARS five 8s no 9s
39) 680 EXPOS FUTURE STARS five 8s no 9s
40) 682 PHILLIES FUTURE STARS three 8s no 9s
41) 697 DAVID CLYDE 1/1 8 and nothing else
42) 723 SHANE RAWLEY 1/1 8 and nothing else
Please note one or more cards not listed above have a 10 grade but no 9s or 8s Cards with zero Population.
To date - no graded examples of the following 33 cards:
1) 31 JAY JOHNSTONE Updated - First graded PSA 101/1 - 32 left to 100%
2) 33 TONY SCOTT
3) 37 KIKO GARCIA
4) 69 RICK WILLIAMS
5) 127 GARY THOMASSON
6) 134 MATT KEOUGH
7) 148 MANNY SANGUILLEN
8) 164 GREG PRYOR
9) 216 PHIL MANKOWSKI
10) 226 BILL STEIN
11) 238 ROB WILFONG
12) 242 LAMAR JOHNSON
13) 253 JOHN MONTAGUE
14) 268 RAFAEL LANDESTOY
15) 291 RANDY SCARBERRY
16) 301 MIKE EDWARDS
17) 336 GEORGE MEDICH
18) 347 HARRY CHAPPAS
19) 349 JACK BROHAMER
20) 434 JOHNNIE LEMASTER
21) 446 DUFFY DYER
22) 451 INDIANS TEAM
22) 494 CRAIG MINETTO
23) 508 U.L. WASHINGTON
24) 537 ALEX TREVINO
25) 539 RUDY MAY
26) 541 MIGUEL DILONE
27) 549 LARRY WOLFE
28) 555 ED FIGUEROA
29) 597 TOM POQUETTE
30) 645 RICK BURLESON
31) 688 STEVE STONE
32) 696 JULIO GONZALEZ
33) 703 OTTO VELEZ
On 3/31/05 we now stand here:
Cards yet to be in any kind of holder
268 R. Landestoy
451 Indians Team
508 U.L. Washington
541 M. Dilone
645 R. Burleson
696 J. Gonzalez
1/1 8 9 and 10 (please note there are probably a few 1/1 cards missed on this list as my research has been from registered sets and what I know off the top of my head)
PSA 8
68 LARRY HARLOW 1/1 8
330 AL COWENS 1/1 8
Cards only available in PSA 8
49 M. Guerrero
68 L. Harlow
164 G. Pryor
330 A. Cowens
349 J. Brohamer
452 S. Dillard
549 L. Wolfe
PSA 9 with no 10s available and probably no 8s either.
9 STEVE BRAUN 1/1 9
62 MIKE IVIE 1/1 9
69 RICK WILLIAMS 1/1 9
82 ASTROS TEAM 1/1 9 with mgr.
121 CHECKLIST 1-121 1/1 9
171 FERNANDO GONZALEZ 1/1 9
227 LEN BARKER 1/1 9
291 RANDY SCARBERRY 1/1 9
311 ROGER METZGER 1/1 9
336 GEORGE MEDICH 1/1 9
366 ROB DRESSLER 1/1 9
392 MILT WILCOX 1/1 9
401 PETE FALCONE 1/1 9
455 MIKE TORREZ 1/1 9
620 RICHIE ZISK 1/1 9
628 DOUG CAPILLA 1/1 9
629 JIM TODD 1/1 9
697 DAVID CLYDE 1/1 9
706 TIPPY MARTINEZ 1/1 9
723 SHANE RAWLEY 1/1 9
PSA 10
28 BRUCE KISON 1/1 10
54 DENNIS LAMP 1/1 10
70 GARY CARTER 1/1 10
66 ROYALS TEAM 1/1 10
106 JEFF LEONARD 1/1 10
133 JERRY TURNER 1/1 10
162 BOB RANDALL 1/1 10
204 STOLEN BASE LEADERS 1/1 10
214 ANGELS TEAM 1/1 10
228 JOHNNY OATES 1/1 10
232 ALAN TRAMMELL 1/1 10
240 DAVE KINGMAN 1/1 10
251 KIP YOUNG 1/1 10
276 TOM VERYZER 1/1 10
302 DODGERS TEAM 1/1 10
339 JOHN D'ACQUISTO 1/1 10
357 BOB MCCLURE 1/1 10
443 MIKE PARROTT 1/1 10
446 DUFFY DYER 1/1 10
467 JESSE JEFFERSON 1/1 10
530 JIM SUNDBERG 1/1 10
539 RUDY MAY 1/1 10
551 PIRATES TEAM 1/1 10
560 DAVE LOPES 1/1 10
614 JOHN HILLER 1/1 10
635 JOHN CANDELARIA 1/1 10
646 CHECKLIST 606-726 1/1 10
652 MARIO MENDOZA 1/1 10
656 LARVELL BLANKS 1/1 10
666 TIGERS ROOKIES 1/1 10
678 ASTROS ROOKIES 1/1 10
701 KEN OBERKFELL 1/1 10
709 PAT UNDERWOOD 1/1 10
713 TERRY WHITFIELD 1/1 10
726 STEVE YEAGER 1/1 10
Anybody,feel free to enlighten me on any updated information regarding 80 Ts.
Thanks!
Presently,it's still impossible to complete this set.Although I predict,by the end of 05 - one out of 3 people will reach 100%.Possibly two.In 2002,there were 5 active players, but 3 since bailed.It's surprising how many cards are readily available,how much the population has exploded, but nobody reached 100% after 3 years and the top guy is stuck at 83%!Two collectors are really close to the finish line,but they've hit the stone wall at the same point I did.Around the high 70s to 80% range,I really couldn't do much towards completion,although was able to upgrade many 9s to some of the first 200 very beautiful,accurately graded PSA 10s.Many of which now reside in the top sets,or soon will.
With all the inconsistency controversy,I wonder if many of the early submitted 8s were actually much better than what's coming up in today's 9s.Thinking many have a chance in hell,I'm curious if anyone has ever cracked out and resubmitted an 8 they got from me?For example,the PSA 8 389 Pete LaC-ock was severely undergraded as many other of my 8s were,too.Unfortunately,hardly any current set builders want 8s,so many I had went to those who dabble just picking sporadically throughout the set.I think LaC-ock and Shane Rawley are the only 2 1/1 8s that wound up with actual set builders.Right now,I can't locate anyone to share much of anything on resubmitted cards.
In my notes listed below,cards like the 555 Figgy have a 1/1 10 pop and 2 9s.For some reason, I didn't list them and other cards due to lack of information,I guess.As well,others like the 666 Tigers Rookies are both 1/1 in 8 and a 10.Also,there are a bunch of team and player set collectors who snatched up a bunch of 1/1 9s who won't give up things even if they upgraded and I'm not sure how to organize all that sort of information at this time.
The Dave Kingman 10 was a pop 2,but I guess not.It now resides in a Kingman freaks collection.The Stolen Base Leaders 10 is also gone forever for a set builder but happily resides in Pebbly Jack's collection along with the Royals team somewhere in the registry,both are 1/1s.You can forget about the Trammel 10,too which was a DGF 10.I went to buy back the 1/2 NYY Team from Gator, but it appears to be lost somewhere in his move.The other NYY TC was sold twice two years ago,never to hit ebay ever again and don't think it's anywhere on the registry.The Astros Team 1/1 is in Ellington CT,the Astros variation 8 (without mgr's name) I don't know who wound up with it, but did sell it in 2002,unknowing at the time it was a variation.My Reds team 10 is in Ohio somewhere,Jeff Van Neil has the other one,so you can probably forget those two.
That being said, there's quite a bit to be up against for a while,but it's not impossible to accomplish something when high population cards,including many stars are at buyers prices right now.Certainly a great deal if you can purchase quantity.Every now and then,one of the important low populations needed to complete a set will reach a 2002 price,but if you stay away from those you'll reach 50%,or so,inexpensively and rather quickly.Might not be a 61 or 69 set,but commons included,it's a nice run of players - 1 to 726.
Lou Brock's final active career card and it's not a full stat card,McCovey's final career card.For Rookies - Sutcliffe,Stieb,Orosco,Hatcher.Lots of HOFERS either early in their career or in midway through.Current Managers from many of today's ball clubs.Guys like Staub,Kaat,Perry
and others with lengthy careers.Like I said, a nice run of players.
Old Notes from 12/24/2003:
A few interesting notes on approximately 75 cards and population.
On 12/24 to have a 100% complete 1980 Topps set was impossible and still is as of 3/31/05 although much has changed.
1) 6 DEL UNSER - two 8s and one 9O/C
2) 14 DAVE CASH two 8s no 9s
3) 29 MARK WAGNER 1/1 8 and nothing else
4) 49 MARIO GUERRERO 1/1 8 and nothing else
5) 67 DOYLE ALEXANDER 1/1 8 and nothing else
6) 68 LARRY HARLOW 1/1 8 and nothing else
7) 82 ASTROS TEAM MGR. BILL VIRDON 1/1 9
8) 82 ASTROS TEAM 1/1 8 and nothing else Could this be a variation without Mgr name?
9) 92 RICK RHODEN 1/1 8 and nothing else
10) 138 ROSS BAUMGARTEN two 8s and nothing else
11) 140 RICH GOSSAGE two 8s and one 8Q
12) 214 ANGELS TEAM MGR. JIM FREGOSI four 8s no 9s one 10
13) 227 LEN BARKER two 8s and nothing else
14) 263 DAVE LaROCHE two 8s and nothing else
15) 279 ROB ANDREWS two 8s and nothing else
16) 305 RANDY JONES only one 7 and one 8
17) 331 RICH HEBNER four 9s and one 8
18) 331 RICH HEBNER one 8 and one 8Q possible unidentified variation (Please see PSA population report for further details)
19) 387 FRED STANLEY NAME IN RED 2 8s 3 9's
20) 387 FRED STANLEY one 8 two 10s No variation specified
21) 387 FRED STANLEY NAME IN YELLOW One 7 (1/1 8 2005)
22) 389 PETE LaC-OCK 1/1 8 and nothing else
23) 391 TONY ARMAS two 8 no 9s
24) 398 BARRY FOOTE four 8s and nothing else
25) 410 BOBBY BONDS two 8s and nothing else
26) 420 BUTCH HOBSON two 8s and nothing else
27) 421 DOUG BIRD 1/1 8 and nothing else
28) 422 LARRY MILBOURNE 1/1 8 and nothing else
29) 452 STEVE DILLARD 1/1 8 and nothing else
30) 487 WAYNE NORDHAGEN 1/1 8 and nothing else
31) 496 SILVIO MARTINEZ two 8s and nothing else
32) 507 LEON ROBERTS two 8s and nothing else
33) 523 KEN HENDERSON two 8s and nothing else
34) 560 DAVE LOPES two 8s and nothing else
35) 563 WILL McENANEY 1/1 8 and nothing else
36) 619 SERGIO FERRER only 1 9Q
37) 649 TOM GRIFFIN two 8s and nothing else
38) 666 TIGERS FUTURE STARS five 8s no 9s
39) 680 EXPOS FUTURE STARS five 8s no 9s
40) 682 PHILLIES FUTURE STARS three 8s no 9s
41) 697 DAVID CLYDE 1/1 8 and nothing else
42) 723 SHANE RAWLEY 1/1 8 and nothing else
Please note one or more cards not listed above have a 10 grade but no 9s or 8s Cards with zero Population.
To date - no graded examples of the following 33 cards:
1) 31 JAY JOHNSTONE Updated - First graded PSA 101/1 - 32 left to 100%
2) 33 TONY SCOTT
3) 37 KIKO GARCIA
4) 69 RICK WILLIAMS
5) 127 GARY THOMASSON
6) 134 MATT KEOUGH
7) 148 MANNY SANGUILLEN
8) 164 GREG PRYOR
9) 216 PHIL MANKOWSKI
10) 226 BILL STEIN
11) 238 ROB WILFONG
12) 242 LAMAR JOHNSON
13) 253 JOHN MONTAGUE
14) 268 RAFAEL LANDESTOY
15) 291 RANDY SCARBERRY
16) 301 MIKE EDWARDS
17) 336 GEORGE MEDICH
18) 347 HARRY CHAPPAS
19) 349 JACK BROHAMER
20) 434 JOHNNIE LEMASTER
21) 446 DUFFY DYER
22) 451 INDIANS TEAM
22) 494 CRAIG MINETTO
23) 508 U.L. WASHINGTON
24) 537 ALEX TREVINO
25) 539 RUDY MAY
26) 541 MIGUEL DILONE
27) 549 LARRY WOLFE
28) 555 ED FIGUEROA
29) 597 TOM POQUETTE
30) 645 RICK BURLESON
31) 688 STEVE STONE
32) 696 JULIO GONZALEZ
33) 703 OTTO VELEZ
On 3/31/05 we now stand here:
Cards yet to be in any kind of holder
268 R. Landestoy
451 Indians Team
508 U.L. Washington
541 M. Dilone
645 R. Burleson
696 J. Gonzalez
1/1 8 9 and 10 (please note there are probably a few 1/1 cards missed on this list as my research has been from registered sets and what I know off the top of my head)
PSA 8
68 LARRY HARLOW 1/1 8
330 AL COWENS 1/1 8
Cards only available in PSA 8
49 M. Guerrero
68 L. Harlow
164 G. Pryor
330 A. Cowens
349 J. Brohamer
452 S. Dillard
549 L. Wolfe
PSA 9 with no 10s available and probably no 8s either.
9 STEVE BRAUN 1/1 9
62 MIKE IVIE 1/1 9
69 RICK WILLIAMS 1/1 9
82 ASTROS TEAM 1/1 9 with mgr.
121 CHECKLIST 1-121 1/1 9
171 FERNANDO GONZALEZ 1/1 9
227 LEN BARKER 1/1 9
291 RANDY SCARBERRY 1/1 9
311 ROGER METZGER 1/1 9
336 GEORGE MEDICH 1/1 9
366 ROB DRESSLER 1/1 9
392 MILT WILCOX 1/1 9
401 PETE FALCONE 1/1 9
455 MIKE TORREZ 1/1 9
620 RICHIE ZISK 1/1 9
628 DOUG CAPILLA 1/1 9
629 JIM TODD 1/1 9
697 DAVID CLYDE 1/1 9
706 TIPPY MARTINEZ 1/1 9
723 SHANE RAWLEY 1/1 9
PSA 10
28 BRUCE KISON 1/1 10
54 DENNIS LAMP 1/1 10
70 GARY CARTER 1/1 10
66 ROYALS TEAM 1/1 10
106 JEFF LEONARD 1/1 10
133 JERRY TURNER 1/1 10
162 BOB RANDALL 1/1 10
204 STOLEN BASE LEADERS 1/1 10
214 ANGELS TEAM 1/1 10
228 JOHNNY OATES 1/1 10
232 ALAN TRAMMELL 1/1 10
240 DAVE KINGMAN 1/1 10
251 KIP YOUNG 1/1 10
276 TOM VERYZER 1/1 10
302 DODGERS TEAM 1/1 10
339 JOHN D'ACQUISTO 1/1 10
357 BOB MCCLURE 1/1 10
443 MIKE PARROTT 1/1 10
446 DUFFY DYER 1/1 10
467 JESSE JEFFERSON 1/1 10
530 JIM SUNDBERG 1/1 10
539 RUDY MAY 1/1 10
551 PIRATES TEAM 1/1 10
560 DAVE LOPES 1/1 10
614 JOHN HILLER 1/1 10
635 JOHN CANDELARIA 1/1 10
646 CHECKLIST 606-726 1/1 10
652 MARIO MENDOZA 1/1 10
656 LARVELL BLANKS 1/1 10
666 TIGERS ROOKIES 1/1 10
678 ASTROS ROOKIES 1/1 10
701 KEN OBERKFELL 1/1 10
709 PAT UNDERWOOD 1/1 10
713 TERRY WHITFIELD 1/1 10
726 STEVE YEAGER 1/1 10
Anybody,feel free to enlighten me on any updated information regarding 80 Ts.
Thanks!
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Hope this helps Rob? I havn't looked it over yet.
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I emailed you per some specific cards from 1980 I found tough to find in higher shape and will not repeat it here but would just like to expand a bit on the general theme.
1976 to and including 1980 represent the final years of simple one major set basebal cards, they are not extemely popular like 1975 nor were they issued in series like 1973 and back. These four years are somewhat "easy" to find in unopened form and have not seen a groundswell of activity in submitting because they a still a bit inexpensive in comparison to many older cards.
None of knows for sure how many collectors out there are "still not going to grade their cards" for whatever reason. The span of 76 - 80 has only a few solid big ticket cards to prompt one into grading his potential raw gems. Once the 2, 3, or 4 fanatics for each year gets most of his good raw stuff graded, where or why do the rest of the cards come from ??
Some time in the future 1980 will be 25 years old, hey that's now and the general public sees it as "vintage", but in more future time some of the big-time, big-money collectors may get into this year for any variety of good reasons. There may be a jump in the pops much greater than say, the 50s or 60s in percentage, as investor-types see the potential profit is now there for 1980.
To me 1980 is the end of an era, the last one card rookie, the start of national conventions, the continuation of yearly price guides, no updates, traded sets, inserts, auto-ed items and so forth. A pretty nice looking format / style too, I might add. A fine set to collect and discuss !!
1980 is the end of an era
Perfect!
What do you know of variations?There are a few,but last I saw the population reports some didn't indicate,for example, why 3 331 Hebners?
The design is a little less exotic than the 78s and a little less Box looking like 79s although as simple in design as 79s. As a run of cards it starts off very simple.
Six Highlights which are all: Cardinals,Phillies,Dodgers and Red Sox,however, not a single Pirate in the mix 1-6. 7-200 player cards,201-207 League leaders.Then 661-686 are all Rookies most notable names off the top of my head are Dan Quissenberry,Jesse Orosco and Mickey Hatcher.Any player who was an All star simply said so on their card.Anybody who was a Rookie on a full player card like:Stieb,Henderson,or Sutcliffe had no indication until you flip it over and see for yourself.No All-Star Rookie,nothing.
One cool thing about flipping over to the blue backs (for those who spend intimate time with other years is: try checking out all these guys like Kaat,Perry,McCovey or Yaz's long run of stats,the changes in their careers vs who they started out with.I believe they are the earliest of for starting years.McCovey I believe is the longest.1959 I think to the year of Orosco's Retirement and Henderson (who has not officially yet retired though under the radar) is quite a bit of baseball running throughout some cardbaord there.I'm sure it's mindblowing on any set but just fun to look at like Nolan Ryan's huge strikeout seasons,then look at how many losing records there is.Holy Smokes!
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Best of luck in doing the 1979 Topps set, it is quite tough.
I have had much unopened new material for 1977 thru 1981 Topps. In my view and experience 79 is much harder than any of the four other Topps' sets. Per the Set Registry it can be seen 79 has the lowest completion of any major set, actually from 1950 thru 1981.
It may not be too attractive in most collectors eyes, so that may be a reason in part, but as one said in a post years prior, " Ray Charles must have been in charge of quality control for the 79 set ". There are some poor examples out there.
I tend to think that in 1980 Topps realized their monoply era was coming to an end, and they decided to implant some controls to get printing to a reasonable level. All sets have tough numbers, and no set is really "easy" to finish, however the 1979 seems a bit overly perplexing.
Sorry to get off the original topic a little, but both sets are consecutive in issue so therefore are similar somewhat. I am goofy enough to collect both.
ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240
We were collecting more than just baseball.I remember Kiss cards,Star Wars,I think the six million dollar man and even the Charlies Angels as every kid who thought they hated girls actually figured out it was a huge mistake once they laid eyes on Farrah.
Anyhow the first sets I am really aware of beating to death and rubberbanding,taping and pinning up were 78 to 81.My dad introduced me about 74.
Jerry,I see you have a bunch of 79s and a few of the coveted 1980's up for sale.
Ever notice that there are Hall of famers like:Jenkins,Stargell,Carter,Perry,Fingers are not even payed attention to for SMR pricing but Dawson's card is?
Why not?...
Stieb
Trammell
Murphy
Might as well toss in
Quisenberry, Orosco,Sutcliffe's RC's and the 387 Yellow letter should be reported,too.
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RobE - I have nothing to add to your post, since what I collect is completely different.
Just wanted say I appreciate your passion.
That's the kind of stuff us obsessed collectors think about
and that's what separates us over-the-top loonies from the casual collectors.
"How about a little fire Scarecrow ?"
<< <i>Jerry,I see you have a bunch of 79s and a few of the coveted 1980's up for sale.
Ever notice that there are Hall of famers like:Jenkins,Stargell,Carter,Perry,Fingers are not even payed attention to for SMR pricing but Dawson's card is?
Why not?...
Stieb
Trammell
Murphy
Might as well toss in
Quisenberry, Orosco,Sutcliffe's RC's and the 387 Yellow letter should be reported,too. >>
Yes, I am finally parting with some of those 1980 10's - much to my dismay. The Dawson is a 1/4 blazer, and I hope it goes to a good home. I have the Bench 10 up also, and in coming weeks I have many more -
Funny you mention those above players. I remember getting the Perry and Fingers from Mile High last year, and paying over $100 each for them, and I was shocked that they went that high given no SMR value. Most of the cards you mention should deserve a line in the SMR anyway...once again, great analysis and stats Rob!
Not knowing how the smr really operates I offered Joe the information I was tracking but he never replied so I gave up being pinpoint accurate in price reporting.
However,I did notice some of the very cards I sold had been reported in Becket.As well,I believe they at least track the Stieb RC.
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