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DS1991ToppsDS1991Topps Posts: 106 ✭
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Are Error Cards worth collecting?

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  • bowdowntomebowdowntome Posts: 398
    Basically, only if they corrected the error and if there are 2 known variations that exist. Even then, alot of collectors don't care one way or the other about them. I do however. In my twisted little mind, a set is not complete unless it contains all known variations or error/correct cards.
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  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,407 ✭✭✭✭✭
    DS
    Error cards were all the rage in the early and mid-90's...a lot of it was the "intentional?"/work of companies like Donruss who just couldn't seem to get it right. Two of my favorites were the 89UD Murphy and 89F Ripken errors. Vintage errors will command some serious money but all and all, I think the error craze is pretty much a thing of the past IMO.

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    Some people still enjoy chasing them for the fun of it. I remember at one point the Dale Murphy reverse negative error was going for some righteous bucks...now? Not so righteous.

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  • Mac53Mac53 Posts: 805 ✭
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  • justanoldtimerjustanoldtimer Posts: 140
    Heh I love that card Mike
    I talked to Billy at 1 of the Winter fest the Orioles have Every year.. I asked him if he ever found out who wrote that on his bat, You Should have seen the look in his Eye's LOL He doesn't know who wrote it but it was fun to ask him..
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  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,407 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Heh I love that card Mike
    I talked to Billy at 1 of the Winter fest the Orioles have Every year.. I asked him if he ever found out who wrote that on his bat, You Should have seen the look in his Eye's LOL He doesn't know who wrote it but it was fun to ask him.. >>


    justan
    Something tells me he knew what he was doing? But ya never know.

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  • DS1991ToppsDS1991Topps Posts: 106 ✭

    The reason I asked... Did this seller get lucky or Does the price fit these error cards? I have attached the photo since the listing ended...


    Click here to see the price.Drabek Border

    Click here to see the price of theChris HoileBoth same error


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    THANKS,

    ...1991 TOPPS Desert Shield Baseball Card Collector
    .....Since 1991 HOOAH!

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  • loki23loki23 Posts: 134
    lol, please tell me that isn't the exact image from the auction...because the auction has it listed as Chris Hoiles
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  • DS1991ToppsDS1991Topps Posts: 106 ✭


    Sorry about that one... I have updated it... Both have the same error... One went for 36.00 and the other went for 80.00! Did not get a photo of the 80.00 card.

    I was surprise how much the seller got.
    THANKS,

    ...1991 TOPPS Desert Shield Baseball Card Collector
    .....Since 1991 HOOAH!

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  • bowdowntomebowdowntome Posts: 398
    Interesting, wasn't aware of those. Also notice on the one with the white border, that Doug has pearly white teeth, while on the one with the dark border, Doug is sporting a set of blacked out chicklets.
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  • Melior_InvenidisteMelior_Invenidiste Posts: 123 ✭✭

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  • BaltimoreYankeeBaltimoreYankee Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭✭✭

    To answer the OP's question from 2005, error cards are worth collecting if you enjoy collecting them. I have a bunch of them but they have little monetary value.

    Daniel
  • milbrocomilbroco Posts: 2,731 ✭✭✭

    My opinion is that some errors may be good to collect depending on what they are. The main thing is to collect what you like. I would research some of the more difficult errors to collect. I would NOT collect what some people try to sell as rare errors on ebay. Like a card that has a small print dot in the first letter of their name. Or like the 1987 Topps Barry Bonds rookie error. The first number 3 of the card number is cut off........they are all printed that way and is not an error or variation. To me it's worthless. I would try for the 89UD reverse neg of Dale Murphy, or to a lesser monetary extent the 81F Graig Nettles. Just my 1.5 cents.
    Bob

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  • Nathaniel1960Nathaniel1960 Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Anyone got an EX centered RBAVES error?

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  • daltexdaltex Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No. Errors are mostly worthless. Some variations are worth collecting.

  • agragr Posts: 64 ✭✭✭

    How would you define a variation ?

  • In4apennyIn4apenny Posts: 298 ✭✭✭

    My life was full of errors, so I like collecting them. Cheers

  • PortlandjoePortlandjoe Posts: 36 ✭

    Just the "f##k face" ha error which seems to be up in recent years

  • daltexdaltex Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @agr said:
    How would you define a variation ?

    A variation is one of multiple versions of a card issued by the manufacturer. It's likely what most people here mean when they say "error", but of course there is no "error" on the 1989 Fleer Randy Johnson to have the Marlboro ad showing, but there are multiple varieties.

    By an error, as in the coin sense, I mean a one sided card, or a card that is, say, 25% off center so that 3/4 is the intended card and the other 1/4 is the next card on the sheet.

    With the Herrera, Thomas, and Henderson above it can be seen that some errors are so prevalent that they come to be considered variations.

  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 9,117 ✭✭✭✭✭

    IIRC the 91 Stadium Club of Ripken was a rev. neg. Was not corrected.

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  • agragr Posts: 64 ✭✭✭

    For myself variations are cards intentionally changed in the production process by the manufacturer. Examples in 59 would be trade and option variations or Spahn DOB, while the Haywood Sullivan back differences, now recognized as variations, are just minor print defects

    Then there are recurring print defects, like the 58 Herer, the 57 Bakep or 52 Campos black star. Early on before internet scans were everywhere they received hobby recognition as scarce variations which became very valuable.

    But we know now there are hundreds of such recurring print defects in almost all Topps sets through the 80s. Most have no hobby recognition even though some are more dramatic than those 3

    Some of these new found defects occasionally get hobby recognition as variations like the green smudge in the ball on the back of the 61 Fairly and go up in value as a result, but seem like minor recurring print defects to me. There are many other green smudge cards in the 61 set with no recognition

    I have a set of the 82 Topps Blackless cards, but view them as printing defects or errors, not variations. They were just printing errors

    However there is no standard hobby definition of a variation, or of a recurring print defect or an error, so the hobby as a whole becomes the arbiter of what holds value.

    With the catalogs now dead the grading companies would seem to be the sole way to get recognition of new “ variations”

    And it is often impossible to tell if a print defect like the Thomas no name and other notable print defects where caught and corrected, or just ran their course over a few print runs

    To each their own. Interesting topic to me. Thanks for the feedback

  • GroceryRackPackGroceryRackPack Posts: 3,203 ✭✭✭✭✭

    a few of my fav's... :)


  • daltexdaltex Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @agr said:
    For myself variations are cards intentionally changed in the production process by the manufacturer. Examples in 59 would be trade and option variations or Spahn DOB, while the Haywood Sullivan back differences, now recognized as variations, are just minor print defects

    Then there are recurring print defects, like the 58 Herer, the 57 Bakep or 52 Campos black star. Early on before internet scans were everywhere they received hobby recognition as scarce variations which became very valuable.

    But we know now there are hundreds of such recurring print defects in almost all Topps sets through the 80s. Most have no hobby recognition even though some are more dramatic than those 3

    Some of these new found defects occasionally get hobby recognition as variations like the green smudge in the ball on the back of the 61 Fairly and go up in value as a result, but seem like minor recurring print defects to me. There are many other green smudge cards in the 61 set with no recognition

    I have a set of the 82 Topps Blackless cards, but view them as printing defects or errors, not variations. They were just printing errors

    However there is no standard hobby definition of a variation, or of a recurring print defect or an error, so the hobby as a whole becomes the arbiter of what holds value.

    With the catalogs now dead the grading companies would seem to be the sole way to get recognition of new “ variations”

    And it is often impossible to tell if a print defect like the Thomas no name and other notable print defects where caught and corrected, or just ran their course over a few print runs

    To each their own. Interesting topic to me. Thanks for the feedback

    I wonder if the 1975 Yount "puddle" and "no puddle" variations will ever be recognized. I have no clear idea about the relative population. Not even which is scarcer, let alone how much!

  • agragr Posts: 64 ✭✭✭
    edited August 31, 2022 6:34AM

    There are several oddities that can be found in the 75 Yount. There is an older thread in here about this card and the streaks. It is recognized by oddity and variant type collectors but likely would never get widespread hobby recognition

  • secretstashsecretstash Posts: 1,396 ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 31, 2022 9:09AM

    How about:

    1990 Fleer Michael Jordan #26 - no line on back variation.

    PSA was recognizing this for years and then stopped right as I authenticated 2 PSA 10's. What gives? The population is extremely low. I recall that I was actually going to double the pop 10 to 4 total, so they just stopped counting it. LOL

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