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The Savannah Scammer has moved to Overstock.com

Snappy Auctions refused to sell any more of their coins, so now they've moved to Overstock.com. Still running the same old garbage with the same old pics. It would be great if anyone here who has an Overstock ID and a couple of minutes would click on the link below and go to the bottom of the page to the "Report this user" link and give Overstock some background on this seller.

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  • robertprrobertpr Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭
    Holy crap there are actually bidders on Overstock.com???!!!
  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,941 ✭✭✭✭✭
    But wait, it's "Fleabay"'s fault. It's "Sleazebay"'s fault. It's eBay's fault!!!!

    It's not. eBay is a venue. If someone were selling fakes out of a local newspaper, would it be that newspaper's fault? If they were selling at a fleamarket, would it be the fairground's fault?

    In this particular instance, and in an extremely small minority of sellers, eBay has been too slow to stop the sales. But we tend to forget that the entire online selling marketplace is still in its infancy, and a company with 100 million sellers and billions of auctions is bound to have some growing pains.
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  • There are certainly more sellers since eBay raised their fees. I know that there are also sellers that will buy from Overstock and sell on eBay. That's all we need is her junk ending up back on eBay again image
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  • << <i>But wait, it's "Fleabay"'s fault. It's "Sleazebay"'s fault. It's eBay's fault!!!!

    It's not. eBay is a venue. If someone were selling fakes out of a local newspaper, would it be that newspaper's fault? If they were selling at a fleamarket, would it be the fairground's fault?

    In this particular instance, and in an extremely small minority of sellers, eBay has been too slow to stop the sales. But we tend to forget that the entire online selling marketplace is still in its infancy, and a company with 100 million sellers and billions of auctions is bound to have some growing pains. >>



    Don't get me wrong...I'm not blaming anyone except the Donnellys here. Personally, I just want to see any scammer stopped, regardless of their venue, and pjd1966 is one of the worst.
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>If someone were selling fakes out of a local newspaper, would it be that newspaper's fault? If they were selling at a fleamarket, would it be the fairground's fault? >>



    If those venues continued to allow the scumbag to advertise their wares through their services after dozens and dozens of fraud complaints, of course they would be at fault for their negligence.

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  • xbobxbob Posts: 1,979
    I clicked the link and simply told them to "Google the user ID and see what they find. This seller is one to watch due to a bad history on eBay." I guess until a con/scam happens on overstock they probably won't do anything. Maybe the seller has gone legit! Umm...yeah....

    I still have yet to purchase at overstock auctions. I know one seller I'll avoid! image
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  • Just reported them.
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  • I'll become an overstock member (when I get home and can register) just so I can report this scumbag
  • TheRockTheRock Posts: 766 ✭✭
    Done and sent in. See what happens.

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  • I sent an e-mail to Overstock's customer service with a link to PJD1966's Toolhaus.org Feedback and another link from a Google search on PJD1966.

    I asked them to review this seller's past history on eBay and see if that's the type of seller they want on their auction site.

    I will be interesting to see what action they take if any.

    If they can learn from the mistakes of eBay, they may gain an edge and truly win over honest internet traders. image

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  • Thanks! You guys are great! image
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  • Persistent booger, isn't she?? What's next, TV??
  • They said she'd be on "Coin Vault" tomorrow night..........


  • << <i>Persistent booger, isn't she?? What's next, TV?? >>

    Yeah!! How about a little "Law & Order??" image

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  • Here is a little tidbit from Ripoff Reports. Some of the people she scammed are getting together a class-action suit. Pretty interesting reading and just posted today.

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  • I did receive a response back from the Overstock.com Customer Service Department after informing them about "our" concerns with internet seller PJD1966. I aslo mentioned they may be able to capitalize on developing a safer environment learning from the mistakes of other internet auction sites as a tool to attract other customers fed up with the fraud allowed on other sites.

    Although much of their response appears to be in a form letter format, It appears they did take some time to read the letter I wrote and their return reply was "personalized".

    At least here when you try to communicate, they have the decency to reply back and appears as if someone is listening! image Here is their reply:



    << <i>Dear Terry,
    Thank you for contacting us at Overstock.com Auctions. We are excited to see how quickly we're growing. Thank you for taking the time to contact us with your suggestion.

    I have forwarded your feedback to the department that works on site development. We are dedicated to refining the many features Overstock.com Auctions has to offer. It's important that we are aware of any questions, concerns, or suggestions our members may have and always appreciate input.

    If you would like assistance with any aspect of Overstock.com Auctions, please feel free to contact us by e-mail at info@auctions.overstock.com or by phone at 1-800-THE-BIG-O (select option three.) We are always happy to help!

    Sincerely,

    John S.
    Overstock.com Auctions
    www.auctions.overstock.com
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    If I only had a dollar for every VAM I have...err...nevermind...I do!! image

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  • << <i>But wait, it's "Fleabay"'s fault. It's "Sleazebay"'s fault. It's eBay's fault!!!!
    It's not. eBay is a venue. If someone were selling fakes out of a local newspaper, would it be that newspaper's fault? If they were selling at a fleamarket, would it be the fairground's fault? >>



    I beg to differ.

    When numerous PROVABLE instances of fraud are reported to them through their Security Center, their Paypal affiliate, and the IFFCFBI, and they choose not to act, they become complicit by allowing this fraudulent activity to continue. This is compounded by the fact that they also profit by the commissions they make on the listing, and transaction fees.

    They may elect to try to maintain a third party venue relationship, but this would work if they had adequate security measures in place and enforced their own policies.

    Sure, Internet Auctions are in it's infancy, but without tightening up the loopholes on obvious fraudulent activity, this is one infant that won't ever see maturity IMO.

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  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    Repro being sold as genuine.

    Don't know what Overstock's policy is about such matters. Listed in "coins", title says "coin", description says "coin".

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

  • I think that guy use to sell lots of coins from a savanahha estate?........i think that was the gimmick?.......
    I Guess I ws wrong ,But I was mistaken....
  • XpipedreamRXpipedreamR Posts: 8,059 ✭✭


    << <i>Repro being sold as genuine.

    Don't know what Overstock's policy is about such matters. Listed in "coins", title says "coin", description says "coin". >>










    What do you mean? The 2X2 is clearly marked "ken."




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    I can't believe she's still calling herself pjd1966. Man, this chick's got some brass ones!


  • << <i>I can't believe she's still calling herself pjd1966. Man, this chick's got some brass ones! >>



    Personally, I opt for stupidity. Let's face it, it's only the stupid criminals who get caught. Arrogance and greed can be chalked up to stupidity. The intelligent ones never get found out, stop when they've made some money, and move on before anyone can get suspicious.

    Edited to fix quote and spelling (not an easy morning).
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  • I checked to see what else was on the web about her and there is a website called www.pjd1966.com. This is NOT their website. It's based in New Jersey and belongs to a law firm. No, I don't think that they have any litigation pending against them; I think it's a very bizarre coincidence.
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  • SFDukieSFDukie Posts: 618


    << <i>Snappy Auctions refused to sell any more of their coins, so now they've moved to Overstock.com. Still running the same old garbage with the same old pics. It would be great if anyone here who has an Overstock ID and a couple of minutes would click on the link below and go to the bottom of the page to the "Report this user" link and give Overstock some background on this seller.

    pjd1966 at Overstock >>



    Dear sfdukie,
    Your submission for Content Review has successfully been received and will be reviewed shortly.

    Thank you for helping this community be the best that it can be.
    Sincerely,

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  • Thank you, SFDukie. Did you see that she's been awarded the first C.U. Weeble Award?

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  • Has anyone got her address, My bro inlaw is incharged of the police there in Savannah, I have her post office box,but more info and i can pass it on
  • Ask and you shall receive image It should not be a problem listing it here as I got it from one of her old auctions, which are public domain.

    Pamela & Jim Donnelly
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  • I have a highschool buddy that lives in Savannah now, and is a lawyer. why didnt I think of that before! image

    I'll call him this weekend and discuss it with him.

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  • MintstateMintstate Posts: 254 ✭✭
    This looks like her auction, but I didn't see any coins listed yet. New ID created March 3. I've seen her sell this copy of a Wolrd Series sign under the PJD1966 name several times before. Even the text looks familar.Estatedoctor


  • << <i>This looks like her auction, but I didn't see any coins listed yet. New ID created March 3. I've seen her sell this copy of a Wolrd Series sign under the PJD1966 name several times before. Even the text looks familar.Estatedoctor >>


    She ran 21 coin auctions for a week. I have had some communication with the winner of the bogus proof coin and she won't be getting her money for it. She has nothing listed now, so maybe she's trying some other site. These very well may be hers. The coins were what got her booted. Maybe she's hoping to unload the coins somewhere else and stick with eBay for the rest of her junk.
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  • MintstateMintstate Posts: 254 ✭✭


    << <i>She also may be trying to sell again on eBay under another ID. I haven't found her anywhere else yet. >>



    Try estatedoctor on ebay. No coins listed though. (Sorry if my other post was misunderstood)Link
  • I'm sorry. Your post was clear. I was foggy image I went back and edited my prior reply.
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  • I just looked at the closed auctions, and I think it might be a coincidence. The pictures are much better than hers ever were and the shipping is very reasonable. Most of the stuff went to different buyers - many with high feedback numbers. My gut feeling is that this is a legitimate new seller who just happens to live in Savannah. The name is listed in the earlier auctions as Irvin Clark. Since it's a PO Box, that doesn't necessarily mean anything, though.
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  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    Didn't see any coins but I thought it was odd that this "estate" item sold yesterday for $51, the buyer left positive feedback 3 hours after the auction closed, and 20 minutes after the feedback was received there was another identical item listed for sale.

    Do estates typically have multiples of the exact same items? Maybe I'm getting too cynical.

    Oh, and pjd1966 has no auctions running at overstock.com, and feedback is still zero. Wonder what happened?

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

  • Well, I know that she was harassed quite a bit during the last two days of her auctions and the winner of her "proof" told her he wasn't going to pay. She only had a prayer over there if nobody knew about her. Too bad for her that we found her so fast. We had plenty of time to let people know who she is and let them all know her background. They're a pretty close-knit group over there. Much more so than eBay, where it's every man for himself. She's probably checking out other alternatives.
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  • MintstateMintstate Posts: 254 ✭✭
    The estatedoctor also buys his shipping supplies from the same seller as PJD. Look at his first feedback.
  • I did see that. I guess I'm just hesitant to accuse anyone unjustly of being that b***h. This seller does require watching.
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  • ebaytraderebaytrader Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭
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  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    If someone could find one pjd1966 auction with that same ruler...

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

  • Nice work, Glenn. See what happens when I try to give someone the benefit of the doubt? I reported estatedoctor as a previously suspended user and referenced the sign auctions (current and past). It took 4 hours last time. How long do you think it will take this time?

    Here is the link to report previously suspended users:
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  • She's back.

    She claims to be new to eBay yet she has over 200 items for sale. That's fairly odd behavior for a brand new ebayer. Drill back a few pages and you will start seeing the cheap costume jewelry listed as gold. Maybe she thinks if she stays away from fake coins for awhile we won't notice.

    Looks like it's going to take a jail cell to stop Pam and Jim once and for all. These people are a threat and MUST be stopped!!
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  • Hey SusanLynn, wouldn't that be 27 Shaftall cove there in Savannah? I think your spelling is wrong. image
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  • Ok, she is really making me angry. What does one have to do to drive a stake through Scamelas cold, undead heart? Why is this Dr. Irvin Clark getting involved (he's actually the athletic director of athletics at Savannah State University)?
  • cosmicdebriscosmicdebris Posts: 12,332 ✭✭✭
    estatedoctor narued already image
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  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    You know, they seem to be pretty desperate. I imagine they were making quite a buck before the original NARU and now they are hitting a brick wall at every turn.

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

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