1878-S Double/Triple Letters - VAM Help (9++ pictures)
nesvt
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I try to stay away from this year, but I liked the look and price. I'm sure one or more of you could give me a VAM number in two minutes. I'm looking through my book and updates. Going to a show tomorrow and plan to get more books (like the 1878 stuff).
This is a 1878-S. The point of the 4th right star is NOT broken, the R in TRUST IS broken, 1-7- doubled, light die gouge in front of eye. The B in PLURIBUS looks tripled, same with LIBERTY. Maybe it's just strange doubling. All of the motto is doubled on obverse. D in DOLLAR doubled on bottom. I'm dumping a bunch of pictures in case someone can narrow it down for me. Thanks.
This is a 1878-S. The point of the 4th right star is NOT broken, the R in TRUST IS broken, 1-7- doubled, light die gouge in front of eye. The B in PLURIBUS looks tripled, same with LIBERTY. Maybe it's just strange doubling. All of the motto is doubled on obverse. D in DOLLAR doubled on bottom. I'm dumping a bunch of pictures in case someone can narrow it down for me. Thanks.
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Sorry for the delay. Went to the Parsippany NJ coin show today.
Here are some more photos. Any help is appreciated. I noticed there is a gouge in the denticles under the E in ONE. The top right of G and the top left of O in GOD are overpolished. There are several die scratch lines in the top of the eagle's right wing. Not sure any of this helps.
What sort of microscope photography set-up and lighting are you using??
Stuart
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<< <i>nesvt: I am very impressed with the quality and detail of your photomicrographs.
What sort of microscope photography set-up and lighting are you using?? >>
Thanks. I use a toilet paper tube, 14 inches of duct tape, a 10x loupe, and camera-phone.
Just kidding, but it's not too far off. I have a small Olympus D-40 digital camera (4 megapixels). I hold the camera (flash off, macro mode on) up to the rubber eyecup of my favorite Christmas gift... a National brand stereo microscope. My hand shakes, I shoot a few pictures, and transfer them to the laptop. I have to shrink them down quite a bit. I'm at a hotel overnight. I yanked the shade off a lamp and leaned it up against the scope.
Stuart
Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
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The letters in LIBERTY and the "R" looks quadrupled to me!! There's only one VAM mentioned with Quadrupled LIBERTY but nothing else matches up like your coin!!
I think some of the BIG DOGS should take a look at this.
Someone else mentioned VAM-5 and there's a revised description at the www.Ashmore.com website in the text updates. Maybe you should check them out to see if anything fits.
In the meantime, could you post a photo of Liberty's eye?
If I only had a dollar for every VAM I have...err...nevermind...I do!!
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<< <i>In the meantime, could you post a photo of Liberty's eye? >>
Here you go. There's a small die gouge in front of her eye.
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According to my book the Rev must be a B2C Broken R the only die marriage is with the II/5 Doubled R
<< <i>According to my book the Rev must be a B2C Broken R the only die marriage is with the II/5 Doubled R >>
BigDave,
It sounds like you're looking at the descriptions for the 7TF rev of 78. The 1878-S dollars have different reverses, with the VAM 6 having the B2j reverse, which includes a broken 'r' in 'trust'.
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