This submission result is conclusive PROOF that PCGS grading is inconsistent! Oh yeah, CHA CHING!
Russ
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All three of the Frankies were cracked out of PR66CAM holders.
LINE # CERT # COIN DATE DENOMINATION VARIETY COUNTRY GRADE
1 21904638 1956 50C Type 2 USA PR66CA
2 21904639 1956 50C Type 2 USA PR68CA
3 21904640 1956 50C Type 2 USA PR69CA
4 21904641 1964 50C Accented Hair USA PR68CA
5 21904642 1967 5C SMS USA MS66CA
Date Received: 02/10/2005
Date Shipped: 03/03/2005
I picked off the three 1956 Proof Frankies on Teletrade. All three had been submitted in crappy flips and hazed over, which is why they graded PR66CAM. A little corrective surgery, and they're all pretty again. In order of appearance, I had them going 66DCAM, 67DCAM, and 68DCAM. Looks like rather than the designation, a couple of them got a point bump.
The Accented Hair is now a POP 37/0, and the fourth PR68CAM I've made. Pulled from a $12 proof set. Did I mention I LOVE this hobby?!
I was hoping for 66DCAM on the SMS Jefferson, but it's a baseline coin - not a lock - so I'm not surprised there.
The coins:
This concludes today's submission report.
Russ, NCNE
LINE # CERT # COIN DATE DENOMINATION VARIETY COUNTRY GRADE
1 21904638 1956 50C Type 2 USA PR66CA
2 21904639 1956 50C Type 2 USA PR68CA
3 21904640 1956 50C Type 2 USA PR69CA
4 21904641 1964 50C Accented Hair USA PR68CA
5 21904642 1967 5C SMS USA MS66CA
Date Received: 02/10/2005
Date Shipped: 03/03/2005
I picked off the three 1956 Proof Frankies on Teletrade. All three had been submitted in crappy flips and hazed over, which is why they graded PR66CAM. A little corrective surgery, and they're all pretty again. In order of appearance, I had them going 66DCAM, 67DCAM, and 68DCAM. Looks like rather than the designation, a couple of them got a point bump.
The Accented Hair is now a POP 37/0, and the fourth PR68CAM I've made. Pulled from a $12 proof set. Did I mention I LOVE this hobby?!
I was hoping for 66DCAM on the SMS Jefferson, but it's a baseline coin - not a lock - so I'm not surprised there.
The coins:
This concludes today's submission report.
Russ, NCNE
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WOW!
and it sets us apart from practitioners and consultants. Gregor
U.S. Nickels Complete Set with Major Varieties, Circulation Strikes
U.S. Dimes Complete Set with Major Varieties, Circulation Strikes
There are several more from the same submission.
Russ, NCNE
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<< <i>NCS? Or home brew? >>
Home brew on these. Crappy flip haze is usually pretty easy to correct, and that was the case with this group. Besides, they're only Frankies.
Russ, NCNE
Congrats on the grades! When I'm visiting up in your area how about you buying me a hot dog?
BTW I love this hobby, too.
<< <i>How is that last Franklin not a DCAM? Where is the frost break?
BTW I love this hobby, too. >>
I think PCGS is just trying to get russ to send it back in.
Even though I do not mess with these (Modern Issues) I think the results show what a collector can do within the whole grading schem if patience and a little constructive help is given to a coin. PCGS got it correct the first time, it looks like, and again they got it correct the second time. Messing with coins usually is not a good thing to do but some times a coin just needs a little help. Modern coins are not the only ones that fit this catagory.
Nice work and patience Russ.
Ken
Great job. You are the master.
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etexmike
New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.
Camelot
It was like a winter coat, to keep it all warm and toasty.
Camelot
Nice coins BTW.
42/92
<< <i>Those are some of the nicest looking CAM Frankies I've ever seen... >>
Yeah, PCGS must have already met their DCAM quota for the month. The first two are cuspers that could go either way. The last one is a no-brainer DCAM. But, I also don't think it's PR69 caliber. So, it's give it a cam and a point eye appeal bump. PCGS does this quite frequently.
Russ, NCNE
Russ, NCNE
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