A Real Mantle?

nightcrawler729

Could this mantle be real?

I noticed this seller appears to be selling quite a few vintage cards...could this possibly be a raw real mantle - it appears he has been selling a few old cards lately....

Real?

ezyshooter

Sorry i can't help. I know little about baseball but all i know if i had any Mantle rookie i would have it graded before listing on e-bay just to show people it is the real deal. To many fakes out there on such a high dollar card. Just my opinion. Could be real, maybe somebody who can look at a scan who knows Mantle's could say if it is or not.

windcarver5

Hi NC! New to the boards myself but have been reading what these guys here have to say for over a month now.

A couple of things I've learned is that IF it were real, why not get that baby graded and make some real money. And why the private feedback?

Just my two cents worth.....

By the way, are you from the 'Burgh? Like the avatar!

nightcrawler729

Yes, I'm from the 'Burgh....I didn't see any Stillers avatars so I went for the next best thing. You?

Knuckles

I have no idea.

Compare it with a real one. Colors are a little different but this could just be from different scanners.. cameras.. settings.. whatever.. If the auction card on the right is fake it would be cool if someone on here could point out things about it.

windcarver5

Yeah NC, Pittsburgh is home for me as well. Am going to upload a pic of my Pitt to use as my avatar so I got the next best thing.

Go Pens!!!

Brian48

Aren't all the real Mantles suppose to have the overdraw at the top boarder? I don't think I've ever seen one without it.

Mac53

I don't know much about it. But the one on the right has a black line all around the Yankees logo. The real one has no black line below the logo.

JonB

Knuckles,

You posted a scan of two different versions of the card. There is a version "A" and a version "B". This accounts for the box not being complete around the yankees logo, and the print dot to the left of Mantle's face (on the PSA graded pic).

We have a board member that is an expert on the '52 Topps Mantle card. I'm sure he will chime in sooner or later.

BigtimeBowmanfan

That would be Josh. I'm sure he will weigh in soon.

scott

Twinsthreepeat

this card looks real to me. The red box across the back may be a little large though. I would be careful. It could just be a stolen scan. The private bidders sets off an alarm. If you were really interested. Email him and ask for picture of him holding the card on the same pink background or with todays newspaper in the background.

I attached a picture of the two different var.

Knuckles

Oh, I had no idea there were two different variations of the card. Thanks JonB and Twinsthreepeat.

I'm not a baseball collecter by any means but I do have sole old mantle cards and like them very much along with a signed ball. I've always been interested in obtaining this card as well but I've always been too afraid of buying a fake and too cheap to buy a graded one.

Knuckles

Whenever I see an auction with the high bidder set to be private it worries big time. This seller doesn't have very much feedback either which also worries me and the biggest thing that worries me are the words sold as is. "The card is ungraded and sold as is."

Onlypsahockey

Also look at what he is buying lately....'52 Topps singles.

So why sell the Mantle???

A761506

I will chime in...

That card is a scammers delight on eBay...

It is nothing more than a color copy of an original onto a pretty thick cardstock. I've handled that particular counterfeit before, they are well done at first glance, but closer inspection quickly kills that...

The card is printed entirely in half-tone ink. Even the areas that appear white but a little dirty... that dirty appearance is actually printed right onto the card. And they are all centered perfectly like that one on the front. Additionally, they all have that upside-down V shape crease going through his hat. The crease is printed onto the card, so the scammer would physically have to crease the card in that exact spot to make the crease actually feel like a crease. I've even seen one dope try to use Photoshop and cover up the crease for a scan... but you can still see his computer graphic work if you know what you're looking for.

Additionally, if you hold that fake directly in front of a light source, like a flashlight, you will see a bright ring of light from the flashlight passing right through the card. If you did the same with any authentic Topps (or Bowman) card from that same time period, the cardboard will not allow light to pass through it.

-Josh

CDsNuts

Yeah, looks like he's building a 52 set and he got stuck with this bad boy and is now trying to pawn it off on some other fool.

Lee

Knuckles

Cool beans. Thanks for the great info Josh.