Eliasberg World Gold is now up . . .

MacCrimmon

..... however, this coin is not MS67 .....

Well, I was excited for a second.

Eliasberg Gold

wybrit

Sorry to say that auction excites me not at all.

PuddlePirate

It could be an MS-67 if you closed your eyes and made a wish while clicking your heels together...

Philip

The coin even has a chance to get a MS-68, but that ugly toning is taking away from its eye appeal

1jester

The strike is strong, and it may be proof-like, but the poor Lass has a bad case of zits...

theboz11

It's very hard to grade gold,,you know

1jester

Wow, that Eliasburg dude must have been pretty well-off!! What an awesome bunch of coins!

I'd like to link a lot of them, but that would be a long list.

Here's one for the ship lovers.
Triple unite.
Cromwell proof.
Pretty nice 30 shilling from Elizabeth I.
Crowning of Augustus II, King of Poland in 1697.
Pretty nice klippe!
City view of Nurnberg.
Frankfurt city view.
Toned William and Mary 5 Guinea.
Queen Anne anyone?
Even Aethelred would like this one.
Nice slug.
What's not to like about this one?
Cool knight!
Another cool knight.
Outstanding 1614 5 ducat donative from Poland.

and on and on and on!!! Take a look for yourselves.

Philip

I'm so happy I don't collect gold coins.

But there's a 10 Ducat in there that drives me nuts

mrfred

<<The strike is strong, and it may be proof-like, but the poor Lass has a bad case of zits...>>

(Actually, it looks like psoriasis to me...)

Seriously, though, Eliasberg was one of the greats. Awesome!

cosmicdebris

A simply amazing collection!

Pistareen

Hey all:

I'm glad you're enjoying seeing the web listings of the Eliasberg sale! The actual catalogue should mail soon to those who have already gotten on the list. There are a few wrong photos in our web listings that we are working out, but otherwise what you see on the web is essentially what you'll see in the catalogue.

The coins were graded by NGC, but not encapsulated. They will be sold with a photocertificate and an option for the winning bidder to have the piece put in a holder by NGC for a small fee.

All the lots will be at the Baltimore show next week for viewing, and they will also be in NYC beginning several days before the sale in April. Even if you don't plan on doing much bidding, you should take the opportunity to see all these coins in one place if you're on the East Coast. Our lot viewing at Long Beach was full to the gills for most of the show.

If you have any other questions, please feel to email me at johnk@anrcoins.com or PM here.

John Kraljevich
ANR

MacCrimmon

Well, this would be a nice addition......ah, but what's a poor mus to do.

Dennis88

Is it possible that someone (I prefer from Europe) can bid on a coin for me??

I'm only 16 and live in the Netherlands...

Dennis

1jester

Bent coin graded uncirculated.

This is something I've been personally interested in, as one of my coins is also slightly bent, but is uncirculated. In my experience, there are precious few coins dated before, say 1700, which haven't at one time or another been bent or scratched in order to test for gold content (by people less than enthusiastic about preserving the numismatic value of the coin). While this is disturbing (not to mention ugly) to me, it's reality, and it doesn't seem to detract from the desirability of scarce coins, at least in Europe.

MacCrimmon

Can't you read?? It says it's CRINKLED, not bent .....

1jester

1839 commemorative escudo.
1852 commemorative 4 escudos.
1733 12,800 Reis.
Gold bar anyone?
1832 8 Escudos, Santiago, with toning!
Bogota cob.
Colombian gold.
HERE it is!!!! 1828 Central American Republic 8 Escudos. WOW!!!
1830 6 Rubles platinum proof
Communist Sower, replete with factories in field: No collection would be complete without one!!

Well, after looking through 150 pages of some of the best gold coins in the world, I've about reached sensory overload for now, so I'll have to back off for a bit...

spoon

Wow.. what a collection! Like Jester, I sat there drooling almost until I passed out! That stuff is really overwhelming...

But I have a few questions.. I can't say that I've done an exhaustive search on Eliasberg, but most of what I found was sketchy.. here and there details.

So, Eliasberg was a businessman from Baltimore. The bulk of his collection was acquired during WWII. I'm sure there are some political arguments to be had there, but I'm interested in the coins.

Are there any figures on how much he might have paid for the Clapp collection? (I notice that's where most of this stuff came from, c.1942)

Will ANR be posting a total prices realized figure after the auction? (I hope so, good publicity for them, interesting for me)

OK, maybe a question on Eliasberg himself.. what exactly was his business and how in the world did he afford all of this? I saw a mention of shipping, but not sure if that's a correct answer...

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Now a few complaints on the auction.. just 'cause I'm bored.

It would be nice if the issuing authority were listed with the item. I'm sure they are in the printed book, but online most of the entries tell you the value but not where they came from.. sure, I can figure them out, and I hope anyone thinking about dropping big bucks would know, but the most important thing in selling world coins is providing a good description.. a good story can catch someone's interest in something they hadn't seriously considered before.. but all I'm asking for is a name!

Pics are good.. but what is the value of an NCG grade of "BU"?? I would trust the auction house and the pics just as well for a non-point grade like that. Why bother? (and, yeah, some seemed a bit overgraded..)

OK, so I'm grumpy and half-asleep right now... sorry for the dumb questions/comments

MacCrimmon

Clapp your hands for $100,000

more . . .

....and more from google.

MrEureka

Is it possible that someone (I prefer from Europe) can bid on a coin for me??

Dennis - No problem. PM me with your plans and we'll figure out how to proceed.

Anyone else need help?

GDJMSP

You're a good man Andy

Philip

<< <i>Bent coin graded uncirculated.

This is something I've been personally interested in, as one of my coins is also slightly bent, but is uncirculated. In my experience, there are precious few coins dated before, say 1700, which haven't at one time or another been bent or scratched in order to test for gold content (by people less than enthusiastic about preserving the numismatic value of the coin). While this is disturbing (not to mention ugly) to me, it's reality, and it doesn't seem to detract from the desirability of scarce coins, at least in Europe.

>>



From what I know, bent coins from the period come as such usually because of the roller dies minting process and not because they were tested for gold content. I've even seen one coin that was so bent that it resembled a see-saw.

Other than being harder to store, I cannot think of a reason why such bent coins should be less appealing than their flat brethren. Of course, I may be wrong.

1jester

Philip, you're right that roller dies can tend to produce curved coins. However, I'm referring to coins that have been after the minting process, and the coin that I linked, in my opinion, has been bent.