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What is the grade on this morgan? 1880 (P mint mark?)

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That's my image of an 1880 morgan. I need to know the grade -- in order to know the grade, I must, obviously, post it here. Well, there's a problem. Before I used to be able to take pictures and post them here in a breeze. I used IrfanView. Well, I just downloaded that again on my new reformatted computer, and I took the quality of the picture down a bunch, IrfanView says the image is under 50 KB (44.96 KB), however I still cannot post it . Could someone please compress this (or try) and then post it ?

Just so you have an idea of the average grade of the coin, my friend (hes 60) thinks its VF. He's been in the coin business for awhile, so I trust him. Since all of the LIBERTY is there on the morgan dollar. All of the mint luster is gone. It has numberous hairlines and scratches. I thought intially the coin was at least AU-50, but he disagreed and said it was in the VF range. VF-40 or VF-45 he didn't say .. just VF. Maybe its EF?

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  • Disappointing..could someone give me a PM on this matter? Please..help out?
  • That link is your computer !

    we cant go there to help !
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  • Hey" Thoy" is a master at this maybe if he sees it he'll reply...he helped me out alot...messed around for about 6 hours and finally READ his instructions and kicked myself in the butt ...it was so easy...imageimage
    putting together a MS 60 and up Morgan set....60% complete...otlher 40% probably take the rest of the decade!
  • Maybe it's a VF-50?
  • vf20 ?
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  • I PM'd him to the post I put in the General News and Announcements Folder on the home page where I posted some procedures from a couple other forum members for anyone to use for future reference.

    LINK TO THE THREAD ON POSTING PICTURES ON THE FORUMS

    If I only had a dollar for every VAM I have...err...nevermind...I do!! image

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  • << <i>C:WINDOWSDesktopNew Foldercoins1880MorganEdited2.jpg
    That's my image of an 1880 morgan. I need to know the grade -- in order to know the grade, I must, obviously, post it here. Well, there's a problem. Before I used to be able to take pictures and post them here in a breeze. I used IrfanView. Well, I just downloaded that again on my new reformatted computer, and I took the quality of the picture down a bunch, IrfanView says the image is under 50 KB (44.96 KB), however I still cannot post it . Could someone please compress this (or try) and then post it ?

    Just so you have an idea of the average grade of the coin, my friend (hes 60) thinks its VF. He's been in the coin business for awhile, so I trust him. Since all of the LIBERTY is there on the morgan dollar. All of the mint luster is gone. It has numberous hairlines and scratches. I thought intially the coin was at least AU-50, but he disagreed and said it was in the VF range. VF-40 or VF-45 he didn't say .. just VF. Maybe its EF? >>



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  • << <i>I PM'd him to the post I put in the General News and Announcements Folder on the home page where I posted some procedures from a couple other forum members for anyone to use for future reference.

    LINK TO THE THREAD ON POSTING PICTURES ON THE FORUMS >>



    Thank you for the link
  • I'm not too good at grading but here is a link that might help you determine the grade.

    COINCENTRIC.COM

    If I only had a dollar for every VAM I have...err...nevermind...I do!! image

    My "Fun With 21D" Die State Collection - QX5 Pics Attached
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    2 –DAMMIT BOY!!! ® Awards
  • ttt.

    anyone else know the grade on this morgan? Just trying to help my own grading abilities.
  • DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
    Grading Morgans is a little different than for other series, the LIBERTY doesn't mean anything. The coin can be AG and still have a full liberty. The areas to look at are the hair over the ear and the eagle's breast to start, then I suggest a book on grading to get you further along. From your pic I would say that your friend meant extra fine (EF or XF). Based on the pic I would say that XF is a fair grade. image
    Becky
  • obverse appaers to be a VF but they do not split grades and without seeing the reverse it would be hard to give this an over all grade.
  • (P mint mark?)


    An Oxymoron? (Ain't no such thing on a Morgan)!
  • Well it's either Vf of Xf. Only you can tell due to the picture. The way to tell is the amount of original frost or luster left just in front of the hairline, in the hair, in the eagle's wings, etc. If there's frost or luster to spare, it's XF-40 or 45. Little or none move down to VF-35 or below. All the eagles wing lines still there? Vf-20 or better. It's just back and forth, but don't pull your hair out, it's a $4 difference in value. Or grade it like a gold coin and subtract 15 points (au-50 = Xf-35).
    morgannut2


  • << <i>Well it's either Vf of Xf. Only you can tell due to the picture. The way to tell is the amount of original frost or luster left just in front of the hairline, in the hair, in the eagle's wings, etc. If there's frost or luster to spare, it's XF-40 or 45. Little or none move down to VF-35 or below. All the eagles wing lines still there? Vf-20 or better. It's just back and forth, but don't pull your hair out, it's a $4 difference in value. Or grade it like a gold coin and subtract 15 points (au-50 = Xf-35). >>



    It has no mint luster oncesoever. It did, but I kept it as a pocket piece. I suppose its VF-20, I looked it up in my PCGS book. It was way dirty, so I (Dont' try this at home kids) cleaned it slightly with a slightly moist fine cloth and a little soap.


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    << <i>Well it's either Vf of Xf. Only you can tell due to the picture. The way to tell is the amount of original frost or luster left just in front of the hairline, in the hair, in the eagle's wings, etc. If there's frost or luster to spare, it's XF-40 or 45. Little or none move down to VF-35 or below. All the eagles wing lines still there? Vf-20 or better. It's just back and forth, but don't pull your hair out, it's a $4 difference in value. Or grade it like a gold coin and subtract 15 points (au-50 = Xf-35). >>



    It has no mint luster oncesoever. It did, but I kept it as a pocket piece. I suppose its VF-20, I looked it up in my PCGS book. It was way dirty, so I (Dont' try this at home kids) cleaned it slightly with a slightly moist fine cloth and a little soap. >>



    I'm sorry to eveyrone that the pictures are so large. I can't find a way to make them smaller. I use IrfanView
  • morganbarbermorganbarber Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭
    I am going to say weak strike AU53. Artificial toning... net grade... body bag.
    I collect circulated U.S. silver

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