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Remember the Ruffin Family of Scammers?

I was dealing poker last night when our brush came over the PA that there was a seat for "Ruffin" open. My ears perked up and watched as a guy was seated at my table. Seemed to be in his 30's, reddish/blond hair, with a southern accent and wearing a Carolina t-shirt! Too many coincidences so asked the brush to quietly find out his first name.

He came up to me a little later to say it was Alan. Not remembering that name from the Ruffin Clan that scammed so many of us, I let it go but DAM* did I want to ask if he had relatives in Fayetteville!

If he's there again tonight, I probably will ask if he's related to a Kevin and/or Edna Ruffin in Fayetteville. If he says yes, anybody got any suggestions as to how I should proceed? Remember, he isn't one of the scammers (as far as I know) so nothing to be done with him but info on the others....?
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>If he says yes, anybody got any suggestions as to how I should proceed? >>



    The first idea that popped in to my head would land you in jail.

    Russ, NCNE
  • tjkilliantjkillian Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭
    When I think of Ruffin, I think of Edmund Ruffin, the firebreathing secessionist who fired the first shot in the War of Northern Agression in April 1861. He actually joined the South Carolina militia to get in on the action early. He killed himself after Bobby Lee was forced to surrender at Appomatox Court House, Virginia in 1865. He was 67 when he died.

    Tom
    Tom

  • spy88spy88 Posts: 764 ✭✭


    << <i> The first idea that popped in to my head would land you in jail. >>



    Thanks Russ! We are definitely thinking along similar lines here! image
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  • Where do you deal poker?
  • spy88spy88 Posts: 764 ✭✭
    Mandalay Bay on the south end of the strip.
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  • Ok dare I ask who are the Ruffin Family? Is there some kind of fueding going down there?? I thought it was between the Hatfields and the McCoys. How did the Ruffins get involved?? Seriously who the heck is Ruffin??

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  • MICHAELDIXONMICHAELDIXON Posts: 6,500 ✭✭✭✭✭
    anybody got any suggestions as to how I should proceed?
    .
    Bust a cap in his...Oh, nevermind!
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  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295
    Xpipe and the rest, this guy took a bunch of people here on the BST board.
  • nankrautnankraut Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭
    "War of Northern Agression in April 1861"

    Huh?????image
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  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭


    << <i>"War of Northern Agression in April 1861"

    Huh?????image >>

    Depends on which side you were on. Of course, revisionist history has really done a number on the war.
  • I'm definitely one of the suckers he got. Spent about $150 (I think) on a Morgan that was worth about $20. I returned it and never heard from him again. I gathered all my information, but then never followed through on it. Was anyone else more motivated than I, and pursued legal action?
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  • spy88spy88 Posts: 764 ✭✭
    Bothuwui, I've been after him for almost a year now after getting scammed out of $700. Filed with eBay, SafeHarbor, IFCC, and USPS. The only one to get back to me was the USPS. They handed my complaint off to their Consumer Protection Program. Sent me a letter (and a copy of it to him) that said he had 45 days to resolve the matter with me and if no resolution could be reached, I was to return a form to them saying so.

    Well, he didn't even bother to contact me (big surprise!) so sent the letter back to them dated 12/14/04. Nothing since.

    Back last year when this family was the talk of the forums as linked, Steve (rkfish) was actively looking into this as he was/is? in law enforcement and trying to help. Steve, if you read this, got any updates?

    Back to Adam Ruffin...he wasn't in the card room tonight so I couldn't ask him if he was related. I haven't forgotten what he looks like tho so if he shows again, I won't pass up the opportunity.
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  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    War of Southern Rebellion!
    There once was a place called
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  • rkfishrkfish Posts: 2,617 ✭✭✭
    There were quite a few on the boards that got taken including myself........I personally had my money refunded via Paypal last year. I also have names, addresses, phone numbers, etc. for who I was involved with in my transaction and have forwarded this information to the members who asked for it.....I have, as others, suggested you contact the local authorities/USPS/Paypal/etc. and advise them of this situation/activity.......and most importantly, provide them with the documentation to back up these frauds and continue to follow up on a regular basis.
    Steve

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  • spy88spy88 Posts: 764 ✭✭
    Thank you Steve. Excellent advice and hope all give this their serious attention. Time has gone by and they may have relocated, but to my knowledge, there isn't a limitation statute concerning mail fraud.

    As stated in my last post, the Consumer Protection Program of my USPS fraud complaint is still actively at work on this for me and should also be for those of you that filed same. Hang in there!
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  • I know of a Michael Ruffin, but he is from Denver. Now lives in San Antonio, plays power forward/center for the Spurs, and at 6 foot 8, is a bit small to play the post, but makes up for it with bulk and hustle.
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

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  • << <i>War of Southern Rebellion! >>



    The winners write the history books.

    The War of Northern Agression is what it is called in a large part of this country.

    It was never a Civil War. By definition a Civil War is where you have two factions fighting for control of the central government. That was never the case, the South didn't want to control the North, they simply didn't want to be taxed unfairly and forced to support the Northern States which weren't carrying their load.

    "Lenin is certainly right. There is no subtler or more severe means of overturning the existing basis of society(destroy capitalism) than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and it does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose."
    John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff
  • The year the YANKEES invaded the United States, as Granny on the Beverly Hills Hillbillies used to call it.

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