Classic case of what eBay shill bidding looks like in it's simplest form - LOL

RBinTex

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pharmer

Don't get your point. It's shilling to bid only 50c over an already low starting bid?

LouisCamp

That doesn't prove shill bidding to me.

Lou

airplanenut

Uh... how else is someone with 1 feedback going to bid? The first guy bid $11, and the next guy came with a $.50 increment. That's nothing more than bidding...

braddick

<< <i>Uh... how else is someone with 1 feedback going to bid? The first guy bid $11, and the next guy came with a $.50 increment. That's nothing more than bidding... >>

Jeremy, that's not true. I just placed a $15.00 bid and the 1 feedback bidder is still high bidder. We don't know what he placed as a maximum bid until you, as a bidder, reach it.

RBinTex

The 1 feedback bidder was the FIRST bidder on those auctions and has only gotten feedback from (& given to) the same seller. Every bid AFTER his just bumps his bid to the top. I guarantee it's a "phantom reserve"

pharmer

Oh, gotcha

dbldie55

Seems like a legitimate way to get around ebay stupid fee structure.

Fairlaneman

So what you are saying is that if I win Newbie Sellers first auction and he gives me feedback and then Newbie Seller puts another coin up I like and a bid is placed after someone else bids I am a shill bidder ? I think not. Small auctions like the example prove nothing. More information is needed.

Ken

tlhoy

WOW, read the sellers feedback!

Why would any one bid on this persons auctions in the first place!


Glenn

MAD4MORGANS

Sorry, I guess I'm a little slow. I don't see the shill.

The one feedback bidder appears to have placed a maximum reserve that no one has yet beat.

The 50 cent bump above $15- peac-ckcoins bid is the next lowest bid increment above the high bidder. The only way to become the high bidder is to go above the existing high bidders "maximum bid"(bid ties go to the earliest bidder).

Yes, the present high bidder "thewiz75" has only has one feedback and appears to have won three transactions of the 756 feedbacks the seller has, but it is common for buyers happy with their transactions to purchase from the same seller.

I bookmark some of my favorite sellers to see what they have listed and have made repeat purchases from them. I have 212 feedbacks for 334 transactions. Many of these other transactions without feedback credit are from buying from the same seller. Ebay doesn't let you have a feedback credit for each purchase transaction and probably should. Repeat customers don't count apparently.

If the 1 feedback buyer "thewiz75" operated like most eBay buyers, he would wait to the last few seconds to bid and snipe in rather than get his maximum bid constantly bumped up. Newbies like this are what the sellers hope for to keep bidding against others and driving the price of the coin up.

I just bid the next lowest bid increment for the auction $16- (sorry about driving the price up potential bidders) I didn't meet his maximum bid he set days ago. The new current price is $16.50 (his eBay automatic maximum bid won the tie at $16-). It will take $17- for the next minimum bid.

I won't win the coin because I will no longer bid for it and it is doubtful "thewiz75" will either. Keep an eye on the sale. If the coin is more valuable to someone else besides thewiz they snipe in and will win out at a price they feel is acceptable.

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Glenn (tlhoy) left a great website link in the previous thread to check ebay members feedback profiles. I saved it into my favorites. Toolhaus.org

airplanenut

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<< <i>Uh... how else is someone with 1 feedback going to bid? The first guy bid $11, and the next guy came with a $.50 increment. That's nothing more than bidding... >>

Jeremy, that's not true. I just placed a $15.00 bid and the 1 feedback bidder is still high bidder. We don't know what he placed as a maximum bid until you, as a bidder, reach it. >>

Sorry, Pat... I meant the bid went to the next increment, not that he necessarily only bid that minimum