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New club member, Morgan question

Good day

I am a Morgan collector for the last 15 years. Not too avid, enjoy picking up coins here and there.

I purchased a bank roll off of Ebay last week. I understand the risks; the seller told me he had not opened the roll but that one end was soft. I got the role and it was as described. 1883-O. End coins are toned; each of the interior coins has edge toning.

I looked through the coins and believe I have some very high quality coins in this lot. At least 4 are MS 66 and three more should grade higher. I am NOT a very good grader so when I send these in, they will probably go AU 50 (LOL). My question to the experts: Can a person be lucky enough to get 67 or 68 coins out of this situation? I find it hard to believe in this day but I do know that out of about 260 dollars I have now, these 7 coins are far and away the best in my collection. Given that the best I had was a number of MS 65s amongst my certified coins.

I do not have a very high quality digital camera, here is a poor photo of one of the better coins. The color is white and again I apologize for the low quality image. Opinions on the coin are appreciated.

I look forward to participating in this club I have leared a lot as a reader over the last few months.

Thanks

Rick Davis
Proud recipient of YOU SUCK more than once and less than 100 times.

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  • wam98wam98 Posts: 2,685
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  • Welcome to the boards image. Good luck with the roll. image
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  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 13,991 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Rick:

    Welcome aboard!

    It is highly unlikely to get even an MS65 out of "original" Morgan rolls these days, let alone anything higher.

    But who knows? Perhaps the thing to do is, lay out the best seven you found, then send in the 'worst' of that group for grading. The investment will be a valuable bit of education as to the quality of the other six coins.

    Your photos, by the way, was a huge blur for me.
    When in doubt, don't.
  • How do the toned pieces look ? Post some pictures of them. image
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  • I will try and photograph the tones; they are very nice but this camera does not do them justice.

    Thanks to all for the quick welcome.

    Rick
    Proud recipient of YOU SUCK more than once and less than 100 times.
  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    welcome.
    coinimaging.com/my photography articles Check out the new macro lens testing section
  • Welcome Rick!

    If I can decipher that photo I would guess it looks very nice. Most times people are disappointed in roll purchases so it would be great if we could hear about a success. It would also be nice to see a better photo so I hope you have fun experimenting with coin photography!

    I don't understand why DennisH says send in the 'worst' of the 7 best. I would send in the very best. Anyway if I understand things properly you might need to send in 5 coins minimum. I'm sure someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
  • Thanks for the welcome Carl. The roll was exactly as the seller advertised, that encouraged me. I understand as the posters have said that the probability of a very high quality coin is low; my readings have told me that rolls tend to deliver higher quality (less marked) Morgans than did the mint bags of old.

    When I unwrapped the roll I had the impression that the coins had not been pawed through. This roll had "First National Bank of Nevada, Reno Nev." stamped on the roll along with a teller number. I do not think this roll had been around since 1883; I think a bank made up these rolls out of mint bags but I am not very clear on how these things were done.

    I plan on sending out the best 5 coins to be graded; I have a couple of raw coins I want to get certified anyhow.
    Proud recipient of YOU SUCK more than once and less than 100 times.
  • Hi RV,

    Welcome to the forum!

    Grading coins is NOT EASY. However, I suggest you try looking
    at some of the great pictures on this forum and perhaps the PCGS
    registry section. At the very least its fun to looks at them image

    Ofcourse, nothing beats looking at coins in-hand. Try going to
    shows and getting slabbed coins for examination. Bring along
    your best coins and get somebody's opinion.

    Good luck with the roll!!

    -Dimitri.
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    Please check out my eBay auctions!
    My WLH Short Set Registry Collection
  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    Welcome! Odds are they'll be around the 62-64 range.
  • Dimitri thank you for the welcome

    I've looked at lots of the coins here; it has been of great assistance. I also used this website:

    http://home1.gte.net/res05izg/morgan/hiend.html

    Pictures can't give you a grade I know but the more coins you look at, the better you get at grading I guess. Using the site above, I have 7 coins above MS 65 out of this roll but as I said originally my skills in this area are minimal.

    Rick
    Proud recipient of YOU SUCK more than once and less than 100 times.
  • Welcome to the forums!

    We share the same last name.


    Link for your site.
    Looks like a site I will be using in the future.

    I'd be happy to get one or two 65s out of a roll.Hope you do get a 66/67 or two.

  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    Hi Rick and welcome to the forum.

    If the coins are as fine as you suspect, you have certainly defied the odds, big-time. I will keep my fingers crossed on your behalf.

    If you do not have someone reliable in your area who can evaluate/screen the coins for you, I'd be happy to do so, at no charge, if you care to send them to me for inspection. If you do not know who I am and would not feel comfortable doing that, please feel free to check me out, without fear of offending me. I think caution is a good thing.

    No matter what, best of luck to you.
  • Wow this forum is a very pleasant and welcoming group.

    I appreciate your offer Mark. I think I will go ahead and submit these coins to PCGS. I have a reference set of certified coins through MS 65 and feel somewhat qualified to tell if the coin in question is better equal or worse than the reference in question. As I have said, I fell that 7 of this roll exceed my MS 65 references; five coins in that reference group.

    I understand that if I get great coins, I have defied the odds. What the heck things happen. I bought a roll in 1992 from a flea markey vendor near my home; not a wrapped roll. It had a VAM 44, three VAM 33s and a VAM 41 and 41A. All 1878, 7/8. Maybe i jsut get lucky.

    I will take better pictures this weekend. Also, I will report the grades in January.

    Rick
    Proud recipient of YOU SUCK more than once and less than 100 times.
  • Rick,

    Welcome aboard !

    coin looks pretty nice !

    Now the bad news !

    You wont be reporting any grades in January !

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  • Proof

    OK I will bite, why no grades to report in January?
    Proud recipient of YOU SUCK more than once and less than 100 times.
  • econo time frame is 65 days right now !

    Also,turn on your PM !
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  • Whew. Yes, I understand that but as evidenced by the fact that I bought this roll on the internet, I have more money than sense so I will probably pay more for a faster service. Understand I have almost no sense so I don't have much money, just more than zero.

    Can you hazzard a guess on the coin's grade form my crummy photo?

    Thanks
    Proud recipient of YOU SUCK more than once and less than 100 times.


  • << <i>OK I will bite, why no grades to report in January? >>




    PCGS is currently using GPS (glacier postal service) for its slab delivery.
  • I like that link, pretty nice site and its simple and the pictures are better than my bookimage(PCGS)
    putting together a MS 60 and up Morgan set....60% complete...otlher 40% probably take the rest of the decade!

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