Mighty hot and dry out there,just ask Desert Rat. desert toning ? would tend to think the environment very benign for silver coins,but the paper would dis-color and affect the coin. 1000 bucks plus in MS whatever,would think a slab is in order !
This is the guy with The Pinatubo Collection I started a thread about yesterday that no one responded to. You really need to read his story on the 1934 quarter with toning in his other listings.
Bill
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
The dealer found coins that were wrapped in tissue paper. The top portion of the big plastic bag was partly melted and it exposed the coins to the elements. The tissue papers that covered the coins on the upper most portion of the bag were extremely dark in color. This was attributed to the desert heat for no one knew how long the coins were in that roof.
Interesting since I live about a mile from Edwards AFB. There is only one coin shop in this part of the desert so I'll have to ask if they know anything about this. I can say this though; It does not get hot enough out here to melt plastic unless the plastic was directly against a metal object exposed to direct sun in the summer. Our average temperatures out here in summer are steady at 100-105 degrees with rare days exceeding 110. That is still not enough to melt a plastic bag. Additionally the humidity here is very low year round (5-15%) and corrosion is not something we see a lot of. I have seen dump sites and old homestead sites with tin cans from 60-70 years ago here where you can still make out parts of the labels on the cans. We have seen our first rain in 8 months here in the last two days so you can say it is hot in summer, cold in winter and dry all year, not a condcive environment for corrosion. I placed a SAE still in its mint case, in my window all summer exposed to direct sunlight from sun-up to sundown with heat amplified by the glass and saw no toning whatsoever after three months with this exposure.
The sellers story is possible however I believe it is highly embellished.
P.S. I might add that to-date we have had only two locals killed in Iraq. Both were Marines, both were young (20's) one was from Mojave and one from Lancaster. If the original owner of these "desert toned" coins was a casualty of the war in Iraq as stated then he is an unknown casualty.
<<<The sellers story is possible however I believe it is highly embellished.>>> I edited out the embellishment and this is actually what it means:
DESERT TONED
The origin of our toning has prompted us to share the events that led to its present state. We believe that those events be artificially toning. It is for us to decide. These particular toned in the Mohave Desert belongs to this particular group, the title, Desert Toned. The former owner owned Edwards Air Force Base. He was leaving his wife. His family decided to sell it. They enhance the value of the property. The renovation included some patch up work. the roof the roof the roof is on fire. The people who were patching up the roof the roof the roof is on fire found a mangled plastic wife. The wife found inside the bag called a friend a dealer. The dealer were wrapped in tissue paper. The top portion of the big plastic bag was partly melted and it exposed the the elements. The tissue papers that covered the the upper most portion of the bag were extremely dark in color. This was attributed to the desert heat for no one knew how long the roof the roof the roof is on fire. Most of the the top part of the bag that were heavily corroded and less than half of the bag escaped encrustations. the events leading to the toning of these coins could be construed as artificial for it was not nature that caused its coloration and the word artificial in the truest sense of the word is an appropriate designation for these coins. the term artificially toned applies. each one of us has an opinion on this matter. If the coin is desirable to you then feel free to bid on this auction. If a date is desirable there are professionals who will take it off for a fee. You cannot read the warning on top of this listing.
Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
Looking at some of their auctions is really a howl.
1897-O Barber Quarter F/VF: F/VF in this case means that perhaps if you give it an acid treatment you might be able to find the remnant of a partial letter, if you're lucky.
1922 No D Lincoln XF/AU: Genius! How else do you sell a two cent coin for at least $30? And it's not only a 22 No D, it's the ultra scarce 192x No D. Found in an unsearched bag of Lincolns bought right there on ebay no less!
Of course, they do say in their auctions
we are extremely bias in our grading plus our coins are graded by a person whose eye sight is failing; therefore, it would be prudent for you to check the pictures that were provided in order for you to judge the grade of this coin.
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My Ebay!
-YN Currently Collecting & Researching Colonial World Coins, Especially Spanish Coins, With a Great Interest in WWII Militaria.
My Ebay!
as in "we ate rainbow parfaits for dessert, then threw them up on some coins."
desert toning ?
would tend to think the environment very benign for silver coins,but the paper would dis-color and affect the coin.
1000 bucks plus in MS whatever,would think a slab is in order !
<< <i>Wow, that is too cool. I don't know if the toning is AT or NT, but regardless, that is sweet. How does one make one of them? Too cool. >>
Too cool? That one's just baked in chemicals. This coin absolutely screams AT in every way... disgusting.
<< <i>They mean dessert toned....
as in "we ate rainbow parfaits for dessert, then threw them up on some coins." >>
That's too funny. It is exactly what I was thinking as I was reading the auction.
Like a reputable third party grading service......
That coin looks like crap, and calling it ms60 is crap too......
Bill
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
And in every one, I feel compelled to highly recommend the seller's "About Me" page...it's a riot!
Interesting since I live about a mile from Edwards AFB. There is only one coin shop in this part of the desert so I'll have to ask if they know anything about this. I can say this though; It does not get hot enough out here to melt plastic unless the plastic was directly against a metal object exposed to direct sun in the summer. Our average temperatures out here in summer are steady at 100-105 degrees with rare days exceeding 110. That is still not enough to melt a plastic bag. Additionally the humidity here is very low year round (5-15%) and corrosion is not something we see a lot of. I have seen dump sites and old homestead sites with tin cans from 60-70 years ago here where you can still make out parts of the labels on the cans. We have seen our first rain in 8 months here in the last two days so you can say it is hot in summer, cold in winter and dry all year, not a condcive environment for corrosion. I placed a SAE still in its mint case, in my window all summer exposed to direct sunlight from sun-up to sundown with heat amplified by the glass and saw no toning whatsoever after three months with this exposure.
The sellers story is possible however I believe it is highly embellished.
P.S. I might add that to-date we have had only two locals killed in Iraq. Both were Marines, both were young (20's) one was from Mojave and one from Lancaster. If the original owner of these "desert toned" coins was a casualty of the war in Iraq as stated then he is an unknown casualty.
DESERT TONED
The origin of our toning has prompted us to share the events that led to its present state.
We believe that those events be artificially toning.
It is for us to decide.
These particular toned in the Mohave Desert belongs to this particular group, the title, Desert Toned.
The former owner owned Edwards Air Force Base.
He was leaving his wife.
His family decided to sell it.
They enhance the value of the property.
The renovation included some patch up work. the roof the roof the roof is on fire. The people who were patching up the roof the roof the roof is on fire found a mangled plastic wife.
The wife found inside the bag called a friend a dealer.
The dealer were wrapped in tissue paper.
The top portion of the big plastic bag was partly melted and it exposed the the elements.
The tissue papers that covered the the upper most portion of the bag were extremely dark in color.
This was attributed to the desert heat for no one knew how long the roof the roof the roof is on fire.
Most of the the top part of the bag that were heavily corroded and less than half of the bag escaped encrustations. the events leading to the toning of these coins could be construed as artificial for it was not nature that caused its coloration and the word artificial in the truest sense of the word is an appropriate designation for these coins.
the term artificially toned applies.
each one of us has an opinion on this matter. If the coin is desirable to you then feel free to bid on this auction.
If a date is desirable there are professionals who will take it off for a fee.
You cannot read the warning on top of this listing.
1897-O Barber Quarter F/VF: F/VF in this case means that perhaps if you give it an acid treatment you might be able to find the remnant of a partial letter, if you're lucky.
1922 No D Lincoln XF/AU: Genius! How else do you sell a two cent coin for at least $30? And it's not only a 22 No D, it's the ultra scarce 192x No D. Found in an unsearched bag of Lincolns bought right there on ebay no less!
Of course, they do say in their auctions
we are extremely bias in our grading plus our coins are graded by a person whose eye sight is failing; therefore, it would be prudent for you to check the pictures that were provided in order for you to judge the grade of this coin.
So I can understand where they're coming from.
The real problem with that guy is that he doesn't just ruin common coins, but alot of key dates
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