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"Rainbowroosie Killer Upgrade"

MrDMrD Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭
Talk about fussy buyers, I have not been able to sell rainbowroosie a coin for 8 years...well, I finally sold him one!! ....Check out this PCGS MS 68 1949S and don't drool on the screen!! .....Guess what, he rates this crazy-toned baby as only the fifth best roosie in his set!!!!!..... Wow!!
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  • MrDMrD Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭
    Not a bad picture of this very cool item if I don't say so myself!!image
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow! That is some really gorgeous AT!!

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • yummy! Very nice toning.


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  • WOW - Beautiful coin and beautiful images - congratulations to both! image
  • NicNic Posts: 3,365 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow .... killer coin and pics. K
  • GonfunkoGonfunko Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭
    WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!

  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    Wow, that sure is a beautiful roosie!
  • CaseyCasey Posts: 1,502 ✭✭
    Awesome!
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
    oh come on manofcoins, someone had to say it. here, does this make it all betters? image

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • TonedCoinTraderTonedCoinTrader Posts: 2,765 ✭✭✭
    SHEESH!! Me Loves it imageimage






    Toned Coins for sale @ tonedcointrader.com
  • ERER Posts: 7,345
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  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    Is that a hit in from of the ear?? How can they give that a 68!
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • MrDMrD Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭
  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Is that a hit in from of the ear?? >>

    No, the coin is just glad to see your avatar.
  • robertprrobertpr Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭
    "It's fake'n'bake, and I helped" image
  • ERER Posts: 7,345


    << <i>"It's fake'n'bake, and I helped" image >>


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  • labloverlablover Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    It's a KILLER Coin!!!

    Congrats Bill.
    "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." Will Rogers
  • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭✭
    Marty,
    Remember Dick's photo is twenty times or more the size of the coin. Thus, any imperfection on the coin is magnified by the same factor. Dick did a great job of capturing the coin exactly as it looks in real life...... I love the AT comments, because there ain't nobody out there who can AT a coin this pretty.... The obverse of this coin is eye popping....... Thanks to Dick for the coin and the photo.
    billimage:
    "You keep your 1804 dollar and 1822 half eagle -- give me rainbow roosies in MS68."
    rainbowroosie April 1, 2003


  • << <i>Is that a hit in from of the ear?? How can they give that a 68! >>




    If that hit wasn't there it might be a 69!
  • BikingnutBikingnut Posts: 3,375 ✭✭✭
    Nice! I was watching several Roosies this week on ebay that were graded 67 with great color. They commanded nice premiums for the color. I'm really starting to like this series.

    Dennis
    US Navy CWO3 retired. 12/81-09/04

    Looking for PCGS AU58 Washington's, 32-63.
  • robertprrobertpr Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭
    I don't know if it's AT or not. I'd be hard pressed to figure out how to AT a coin to look like that, but it does look "too good to be true". Dick has some nice stuff but I've learned to not even bother looking at his auctions because everyone else in the free world bids on them and they wind up always going for moon money. And that's really the best compliment I could give to a guy, that his stuff is so good I don't even look at it! image
  • Dammit, RR, I'm never gonna get my GPA over 67 with you and flyingcougar buying all the 68s! Good score. image
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    << <i>Is that a hit in from of the ear?? How can they give that a 68! >>



    marty a single hit does not exclude a ms 68 grade. I have seen at least 10 Washington's that are graded ms 68 (pcgs) and about 3 of those had a single hit, however the toning made up for the hit. >>



    And what about the 4 nicks on the torch on the reverse? Don't they knock it down??
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  • << <i>And what about the 4 nicks on the torch on the reverse? Don't they knock it down?? >>



    MS68 is not a perfect coin. As such some allowances are made for minor imperfections - what you see in the picture has been blown up like 20 times the size of a regular dime. If the nicks on the coin - all 5 of them are barely visible, even when using a 10X loupe, partially due to the overwhelming toning, then the coin is going to receive a high grade. I think this coin is appropriately graded.

    And Bikingnut - it's a great series indeed image
  • onlyroosiesonlyroosies Posts: 3,293 ✭✭✭✭
    I was fortunate to have been able to hold that beauty in my hand at Long Beach. Its just as nice
    as it looks. No,... Its better. One of our fellow board member dealers made the coin. I believe it
    came out of a monster mint set he had aquired. Maybe he will post here with a little back ground
    on the coin. I assure you its an original beauty. No question NT.

    Nick
  • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭✭
    Nick,
    I heard the 49D from the set made 68FB....is there a picture anywhere out there of it?? Would love to see it.
    "You keep your 1804 dollar and 1822 half eagle -- give me rainbow roosies in MS68."
    rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
  • gsaguygsaguy Posts: 2,425
    That is one fine coin and is now owned by a very discriminating owner of toned roosies.

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    Oh, I feel honored. I sold Rainbowroosie a coin the first time I met him.image

    GSAGUY
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  • onlyroosiesonlyroosies Posts: 3,293 ✭✭✭✭
    Bill, The last 49D in MS68 that was made flyingcouger bought. I don't believe it came from this
    mint set. It was made at Long Beach and I think it was an upgrade coin. There was a 49P 68FB
    made recently and it is possible it was an upgrade coin that came from this set.

    Here's a shot of Flyingcougars 49D MS68. As you can see it bares no resemblance to yours.

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  • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭✭
    GSAGUY,
    I've sold a bunch of nice coins as the market has gone up, but I still have that Olympic Dollar!!image
    "You keep your 1804 dollar and 1822 half eagle -- give me rainbow roosies in MS68."
    rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
  • onlyroosiesonlyroosies Posts: 3,293 ✭✭✭✭
    You rarely see these hit the open market.

    Nick
  • LucyBopLucyBop Posts: 14,001 ✭✭✭
    a STUNNER!
    imageBe Bop A Lula!!
    "Senorita HepKitty"
    "I want a real cool Kitty from Hepcat City, to stay in step with me" - Bill Carter
  • FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Holy Smokes if that is only number 5 I want to see the 4 above it. What a coin. image

    Ken
  • Everytime I look at the blown up pics, I find another nick or scratch hidden by the toning. I think if you were to dip this and resubmit it, it probably wouldn't even make 63. I don't think toning should have anything to do with grade. The condition of the metal under the toning should be the only thing that makes the grade.
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  • FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sliderider not to be critical about your last statement but if a Morgan had the same hit on the coin how would it grade ? Also if this coin was Dipped the original aspect would be gone. Original does deserve something don't you think. Heck Dipped stuff is everywhere.

    I do agree that some examples do get a little to much bump for Tone though. This coin does not fit into that catagory IMO.

    Ken
  • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭✭
    Here's my unabashed plug for greattoning -- look at the photo he provided catching both the deatils and the color -- his skill has facilitated this entire string by giving board members such a clear picture that they can debate minute ticks.....imagine if everyone could take photos like this?? ......For example, check the Heritage auction for May....you will see a NGC MS 68 1949S selling for about 2K....oops, that is this coin in a different holder.....if Heritage had had Dick's photos, they might have sold the coin for twice what the bidder "stole" it for!!!!! .....Sliderider is right about hits and dipping coins altering their grades, but this is not a dipped coin....look at my board name....I am well aware of the technical aspect of a coin, but RAINBOW is what is in my name....this coin is perfect for and consistent with my entire set....world's finest color...as I said in my initial entry in this string, this is the "fifth finest" coin in the set....the other four look as pretty as this one, but have no marks!....Onlyroosies has offered to photograph my upgraded set during FUN and IMHO you will see the world's best rainbow set (not highest graded) on line sometime in January.
    rainbowroosie
    "You keep your 1804 dollar and 1822 half eagle -- give me rainbow roosies in MS68."
    rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
  • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Everytime I look at the blown up pics, I find another nick or scratch hidden by the toning. I think if you were to dip this and resubmit it, it probably wouldn't even make 63. I don't think toning should have anything to do with grade. The condition of the metal under the toning should be the only thing that makes the grade. >>
      There is much more to the grade than just a tiny nick or two that can be seen when the coin is blown-up to 10X. So many newbies count ticks to determine the grade they miss the big picture of the coins true grade. This coin has the WOW factor that 99.99% of coins can't even come close to and the originality is unquestionable if you know what mint set toning can look like in these years. mike image
    • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
      sliderider, I did not mean to imply that you were a newbie as I don't really know you. mike
    • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭✭
      Imagine what the Franklins and Washingtons look like out of this same mint set!!! image
      "You keep your 1804 dollar and 1822 half eagle -- give me rainbow roosies in MS68."
      rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
    • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭


      << <i>Imagine what the Franklins and Washingtons look like out of this same mint set!!! >>
        that was the first thing that ran through my mind! I have the dimes and quarters from a 54-S set in at PCGS right now that I have high hopes for( they were from a partial set so I did not feel too guilty of breaking up a set). mike image
      • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭✭
        Mike,
        Years ago, I used to break up older sets and punch out the great dimes and slab the Franklins. Washingtons used to be throw aways....shows how forward looking I was!!image
        "You keep your 1804 dollar and 1822 half eagle -- give me rainbow roosies in MS68."
        rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
      • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
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      • FrattLawFrattLaw Posts: 3,290 ✭✭
        Wow! I just wish I could find colors like that on a Peace $. That is one truly spectacular coin.

        Rainbowroosies -- Is that one of the most beautiful, colorwise, in your set?

        Dick -- great photos. It is sooooo hard to capture luster & color in the same pic!

        Michael


      • << <i>Everytime I look at the blown up pics, I find another nick or scratch hidden by the toning. I think if you were to dip this and resubmit it, it probably wouldn't even make 63. I don't think toning should have anything to do with grade. The condition of the metal under the toning should be the only thing that makes the grade >>



        I disagree with your statement. Grade includes strike characteristics, general condition of the coin, and eye appeal. In addition, to really make a thorough assessment of the coin, you need to see it in person. Some of the imperfections you claim to see could be distortions from the picture, toning, etc.
      • ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭
        What a beautiful coin -

        I always thought Roosies were one of the ugliest most boring coins designs ever created, but in gem unc., with wild color, I'd really like to own one.




      • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭✭
        FrattLaw,
        In the top 8 for colorimage
        "You keep your 1804 dollar and 1822 half eagle -- give me rainbow roosies in MS68."
        rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
      • gsaguygsaguy Posts: 2,425
        <<GSAGUY,

        I've sold a bunch of nice coins as the market has gone up, but I still have that Olympic Dollar!!image>>

        And hopefully I'll have a chance to buy it back from you some day at stupid money.image

        GSAGUY
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      • braddickbraddick Posts: 23,965 ✭✭✭✭✭


        << <i>FrattLaw, In the top 8 for colorimage >>



        The top 8?! imageimage

        peacockcoins

      • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭✭
        Braddick,
        You should see the 49P, 60D, and 61D!imageimage
        "You keep your 1804 dollar and 1822 half eagle -- give me rainbow roosies in MS68."
        rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
      • FrattLawFrattLaw Posts: 3,290 ✭✭


        << <i>The top 8?! >>



        Yeah, that's kinda what I was thinking. I really want to see the 7 more colorful than this one.

        Michael

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