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ScarsdaleCoinScarsdaleCoin Posts: 5,223 ✭✭✭✭✭
To any one who has been upset, ticked, or outraged by any post here on the
FREE message board, just remember we are FREE to express
ourselves on this list just as we are FREE to respond, and the amigos
are FREE to monitor this board at their discretion.

Personally, I find some humor in all of this. Lately, I consider it my own
FREE soap opera that I am FREE to view in my FREE time. But, I also read
between the lines. Each post is an education or at the very least,
interesting. Maybe it reminds me not everyone thinks like me. Maybe the post
makes me wonder how I would handle the situation if presented with it face
to face on the streets (and this includes anything, even rudeness). Maybe it
brings an interesting view on a subject that I may adamantly disagree with
the poster on. Maybe it clues me in on how other collectors and other companies
work. Most of the time it is FREE advise for sticky problems, FREE
advertising and marketing suggestions, and FREE recommendations on services
and goods. Yes, some posts strike a nerve. Maybe I respond, maybe I don't.
But I do move on.

And I always remember that if and when the time comes that I feel I no
longer want to participate, I am FREE to leave. Although, I
can't imagine doing such a thing any time in the near future.

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Jon Lerner - Scarsdale Coin - www.CoinHelp.com

Comments

  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    the forum is not "free".

    K S
  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    This is the most offensive post I've seen in a long time. I'm outraged. image
  • GonfunkoGonfunko Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭


    << <i>the forum is not "free".

    K S >>


    Yes it is...I didn't have to pay anything to join. Scarsdale - well said!
  • I haven't found or read a post yet that ticked me off towards the person who posted it.


    Jerry
  • It is a FREE country, and I love it! image

    Ken
  • image
    -George
    42/92
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,781 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i><< the forum is not "free".

    K S >>


    Yes it is...I didn't have to pay anything to join. Scarsdale - well said! >>



    I think what Karl means by "free" is that while access to the Forum is free, you still need a computer, ISP account, utilities, phone or cable line, etc. And of course, none of these items are free.

    Buyer and seller of vintage coin boards!
  • ERER Posts: 7,345
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    I am leaving
































    for the rest of the day.image
  • GonfunkoGonfunko Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i><< the forum is not "free".

    K S >>


    Yes it is...I didn't have to pay anything to join. Scarsdale - well said! >>



    I think what Karl means by "free" is that while access to the Forum is free, you still need a computer, ISP account, utilities, phone or cable line, etc. And of course, none of these items are free. >>


    Hmm...didn't think about that. You could always borrow someone else's computer, but that's kinda pushing it. I'd like to offer my apologies to dorkkarl.
  • I must FREELY say that I have had a lot of help getting into coins the way that I have (kinda headfirst). The help that everyone has FREELY given is extremely appreciated. I have learned quite a bit in the past couple of weeks. If humor isn't FREELY given, this wouldn't be the greatest forum available, bar none.

    Have a wonderful weekend all!!!!!!
    This is a very dumb ass thread. - Laura Sperber - Tuesday January 09, 2007 11:16 AM image

    Hell, I don't need to exercise.....I get enough just pushing my luck.
  • InYHWHWeTrustInYHWHWeTrust Posts: 1,448 ✭✭✭
    just to say the obvious...

    freedom is not free (i think that was on a bumper sticker, still it's true)
    there's no free lunch
    real freedom presupposes responsibilities/limits
    (the freedom to swing your fist ends where my nose begins)

    or you can equivocate on the word free(dom) like the original post (use it in different ways/meanings) just to get a good argument goingimage

    just deal with arguments/logic and keep personal insults --ad hominem fallacy-- out of it; debate VIGOROUSLY but respectfully.
    Do your best to avoid circular arguments, as it will help you reason better, because better reasoning is often a result of avoiding circular arguments.
  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I think what Karl means by "free" is that while access to the Forum is free, you still need a computer, ISP account, utilities, phone or cable line, etc. And of course, none of these items are free. >>

    yep. you also subsidize the programmers who developed this forum, the salary of the forum modulator, etc etc., each time you buy a coin in a pcgs slab.

    that's all good & well, but let's just not kid ourselves. the forum is definitely not "free". there are precious few hard goods or services that are!!!

    1 thing i can think of that is "free" would be bird droppings.

    K S
  • MSD61MSD61 Posts: 3,382
    Grandad used to say " Ya get noth'in for free lad. You pay somewhere along the trip." As far as being offened by posts here I can't say I have.
  • To get back to the subject, I have been ticked off by certain posts over the years, in fact I lurked for several months before a post that particularly irked me caused me to create a user id and sign in! But, anytime you gather a large group of people together, you will have differences of opinion, and that's what makes this forum (and freedom in general) so great....you can learn an awful lot by expressing your opinion or asking for those of others! ( And, in the words of Kris Kristoferson - freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose)image
    Don't you know that it's worth
    every treasure on Earth
    to be young at heart?
    And as rich as you are,
    it's much better by far,
    to be young at heart!
  • InYHWHWeTrustInYHWHWeTrust Posts: 1,448 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    1 thing i can think of that is "free" would be bird droppings.

    K S >>



    "cost "some wormies and bugs their lives to make bird droppings, and birdie's digestive energy image
    Do your best to avoid circular arguments, as it will help you reason better, because better reasoning is often a result of avoiding circular arguments.
  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭✭✭
    << But, anytime you gather a large group of people together, you will have differences of opinion, and that's what makes this forum (and freedom in general) so great....you can learn an awful lot by expressing your opinion or asking for those of others! >>

    GoldDustin: I agree with the above, and appreciate when others share their opinions about numismatic subjects. I learn a great deal from other's posts with differing perspectives and opinions derived from varying numismatic experiences.

    However I take offense when people either make personal attacks or make fun of others at their expense, because I feel that we all should have respect for each other and respect for each others' views and perspectives.

    Constructive criticism is helpful if presented with respect for others' opinions and feelings. Personal attacks (such as what goes on in the political environment) are very distasteful to me, in my personal opinion and are deserving of a flame-thrower in retaliation.

    Remember what goes around, comes around... image

    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

    "Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,377 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i><< the forum is not "free".

    K S >>


    Yes it is...I didn't have to pay anything to join. Scarsdale - well said! >>



    I think what Karl means by "free" is that while access to the Forum is free, you still need a computer, ISP account, utilities, phone or cable line, etc. And of course, none of these items are free. >>




    Become a bum, no job. Go live on the streets. Go to the library, use the FREE (for you at that point since you don't pay taxes since you have no house/job and you take handouts and eat food donated) computers and access and go online to enjoy the forum and the virtual coin collection (since you probably don't have any).
    There....it is now FREE.

    Is that just as good at nitpicking as Karl?

    I agree with what Jon posted, for all intents and purposes, the forum is FREE for us. I doubt very many here purchased a PC or signed up for electricty/ISP JUST to come online here, so, it is an added benefit. Also, there are people here who don't submit, nor buy, slabs from PCGS, right? So, they aren't adding to the profit center.

    Yes....the site is paid for in one way or another. But, again, Jon is right in his way of thinking on this and obviously there was just someone who wanted to nitpick it with their own agenda.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,781 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>...in fact I lurked for several months before a post that particularly irked me caused me to create a user id and sign in! >>



    image The exact same thing happened with me!

    Buyer and seller of vintage coin boards!
  • marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,275 ✭✭✭✭✭
    DK is a nutty buddyimage we need someone to keep freely stating what is unobvious to most image

    Jon is a master of freedom, and the originator of the freebie.
  • mhammermanmhammerman Posts: 3,769 ✭✭✭
    Stewart nailed it.

    My take on it is that if we were all the same we would get pretty tired of ourselves after not too much time so just relax and be grateful for the differences.
  • Dorkkarl- Go fill up your cup, it is half empty.image
    David Schweitz
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,646 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Stewart nailed it.

    My take on it is that if we were all the same we would get pretty tired of ourselves after not too much time so just relax and be grateful for the differences. >>



    There was a Twilight Zone episode to this effect. While this episode doesn't play well
    in the less than twenty minutes remaining for programming and the uncut version is, I
    believe long lost, it was a classic. The point of the show is that it really does take all
    kinds and that most of us have so many idiosyncrasies that the world likely wouldn't run
    at all without other kinds.
    Tempus fugit.
  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777
    However I take offense when people either make personal attacks or make fun of others at their expense

    I don't get offended very easily, but I have to fully agree with the above statement. I seem to get most irritated by posters (there aren't many) who really have nothing positive to add, and only seem to be around to toss insults at others.... very lame.
    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable !


  • << <i>However I take offense when people either make personal attacks or make fun of others at their expense. >>



    Agreed that there are a lot of nasty bashers here, but one less than before as the board has been FREED of an offender that has been banned!
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,377 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>However I take offense when people either make personal attacks or make fun of others at their expense. >>



    Agreed that there are a lot of nasty bashers here, but one less than before as the board has been FREED of an offender that has been banned! >>



    Ya know, majorbigtalk,

    You've been spewing that an awful lot lately....why not just be a man and be direct and say who it is? Hmmm? You talk a lot of talk but you don't seem to step up to be a man when it matters (to admit your own mistakes and just be blunt on stating a name instead of playing a child's game with words).

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • If any of you are feeling guilty that this is a FREE forum, you can always send me a coin to ease your conscience. image

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  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 13,991 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am ticked off by people who never seem to have anything positive or helpful to add to discussions, but who instead relentlessly obsess on negativism.
    When in doubt, don't.
  • LucyBopLucyBop Posts: 14,001 ✭✭✭


    << <i>To any one who has been upset, ticked, or outraged by any post here on the
    FREE message board, just remember we are FREE to express
    ourselves on this list just as we are FREE to respond, and the amigos
    are FREE to monitor this board at their discretion.

    Personally, I find some humor in all of this. Lately, I consider it my own
    FREE soap opera that I am FREE to view in my FREE time. But, I also read
    between the lines. Each post is an education or at the very least,
    interesting. Maybe it reminds me not everyone thinks like me. Maybe the post
    makes me wonder how I would handle the situation if presented with it face
    to face on the streets (and this includes anything, even rudeness). Maybe it
    brings an interesting view on a subject that I may adamantly disagree with
    the poster on. Maybe it clues me in on how other collectors and other companies
    work. Most of the time it is FREE advise for sticky problems, FREE
    advertising and marketing suggestions, and FREE recommendations on services
    and goods. Yes, some posts strike a nerve. Maybe I respond, maybe I don't.
    But I do move on.

    And I always remember that if and when the time comes that I feel I no
    longer want to participate, I am FREE to leave. Although, I
    can't imagine doing such a thing any time in the near future.

    image >>




    ahhhhhh why dont you go buy some of those hidious hairhead Kennedys!!!

    That'll fix him!
    imageBe Bop A Lula!!
    "Senorita HepKitty"
    "I want a real cool Kitty from Hepcat City, to stay in step with me" - Bill Carter
  • Can't ber FREE. Takes up my FREE time. I am sure everyone has just LOVED my posts.
    The Accumulator - Dark Lloyd of the Sith

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  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Dorkkarl- Go fill up your cup, it is half empty. >>

    cup? what kind wimp are you???

    the he11 w/ a cup, gimme the whole da**ed longneck!

    K S
  • I've been ticked a number of times, but my dogs are responsible. MAN!!! I hate that dip! I smell for weeks afterward.
    J.C.
    *******************************************************************************

    imageimageSee ya on the other side, Dudes. image
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    I was upset, ticked and outraged.................................long before I got to the Forum.
    There once was a place called
    Camelotimage
  • UncleJoeUncleJoe Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭
    It's free until your "free" speech crosses the line (?) and then you're banned. image

    Joe.

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