This a bunch of BS

sliderider

Was high bidder when seller pulled auction.

Damn jerk. Bids didn't get as high as he thought and he bailed. Can I report him for this???

Coppernicus

Happens all the time - no recourse that I know of.

Barry

Permitted by EBay, as annoying as it is.

Why do you want a counterfeit 16-D dime?

291fifth

Counterfeits can't be sold on eBay so pulling the auction would be considered to be abiding by eBay's rules. I know, you will say that you see them all the time...but, according to eBay rules, they can't be sold.

sliderider

The thing is he didn't say with absolute certainty that it was a counterfeit, just that he suspected it was. It might not have been. For all we know that could have been a genuine BU 1916-D and I could have picked it up with a hundred dollar bid.

And I wanted it anyway because even if it was a fake, it would have made a very nice hole filler.

Coppernicus

Use a '16-P for a hole filler!

sliderider

Coppernicus,

I meant to fill the empty hole reserved for the 16-D, not some other coin.

ziggy29

It's funny -- eBay doesn't often go after reports of obvious fakes that aren't sold as fakes, which get bid up way too high...and someone advertises clearly and honestly as a fake, asks almost nothing for it, has bidders who want it as a fake...and they pull it.

Rules are rules, but all else being equal, it would be nicer if they enforced them MORE, not LESS, on scammers who try to pass them off to unsuspecting bidders as genuine.

coinchallenged

I wonder what the penalties are for selling an authentic coin as a counterfeit?

mr1931S

"I believe it was rejected by PCGS as a "Counterfeit." This coin was intercepted at a coin dealership in Louisiana."

What????

ss350camaro

You wouldn't have won anyway. Another bidder bid $110

UncleJoe

It doesn't look like you were the high bidder.

Joe.

Shamika

<< <i> The thing is he didn't say with absolute certainty that it was a counterfeit, just that he suspected it was. It might not have been. For all we know that could have been a genuine BU 1916-D and I could have picked it up with a hundred dollar bid. >>


You're kidding right?

This is just the sort of scam an unscrupulous seller would run betting that some naive collector would think EXACTLY WHAT YOU JUST STATED.

DON'T BE FOOLISH!

ziggy29

<< <i>It doesn't look like you were the high bidder. >>

Yep. It looks like someone took out his $100 bid with a $110 bid two minutes before the bids were cancelled. I doubt the seller pulled it -- I'd be more than happy for someone to take a fake off of hands over a hundred bucks.

smselvek

Isn't it illegal to possess and therefore sell counterfeit coins? If a coin is in question shouldn't it be the owner’s responsibility to verify if the coin is a counterfeit and if it is a counterfeit to destroy it and not resell it? What's BS is the idea of using it as a "filler." Sooner or later that "filler" will be passed off as the real thing and that would be more BS.

Conder101

<< <i>Isn't it illegal to possess and therefore sell counterfeit coins? >>


No. It is illegal to sell them as genuine as that is intent to defraud, or to spend them as that is also intent to defraud. To sell them as counterfeits seems to be legal. On the other hand they DO have to be surrendered to government agents if they ASK for them.

relayer

howsheltie was the high bidder, unless of course you had another one of those bidding errors when you didn't confirm your bid.

But don't worry - there are plenty of other sellers trolling for bidders who are going to make a fortune buying their fakes. Greed is good.

JrGMan2004

Just a glance at the D tells me it's an added-MM...

Russ

<< <i>The thing is he didn't say with absolute certainty that it was a counterfeit, just that he suspected it was. >>



Looking for Santa Claus again?



<< <i>and someone advertises clearly and honestly as a fake, asks almost nothing for it, has bidders who want it as a fake...and they pull it. >>



eBay didn't pull it, the seller cancelled the auction. Since it was bid to over $100 - plenty for a fake - and he still cancelled, it's pretty obvious he was looking to hook a sucker.

Russ, NCNE

Baley

Sliderider, with experience, your judgement will improve, and you will not be so upset at not getting ripped off.

RYK

Sliderider, with experience, your judgement will improve, and you will not be so upset at not getting ripped off.



There will be plenty other opportunities to buy fake 16-Ds--do not despair.

sliderider

Damn slow email! I never even got the outbid notice until an hour ago.

And what do you mean, my judgement will improve? I bid assuming with 99% certainty that it was a very nice looking fake. You never know about these things, though.

susanlynn9

Ziggy, eBay didn't kill this auction, the seller did. I'm sure that eBay would have let it run its full course. BTW, I'm still waiting for a response from Christopher Cipoletti at ANA.

susanlynn9

<< <i>I doubt the seller pulled it -- I'd be more than happy for someone to take a fake off of hands over a hundred bucks. >>


I'm sure the seller pulled it. When eBay pulls an auction, all you get is "invalid item". You can't see the auction page anymore.

Shamika

<< <i>And what do you mean, my judgement will improve? I bid assuming with 99% certainty that it was a very nice looking fake. You never know about these things, though. >>


The fact that you say "You never know about these things, though" says it all.

This auction is a textbook example on how to run a legitimate scam (there's an oxymoron)!

relayer

<< <i>Sliderider, with experience, your judgement will improve, and you will not be so upset at not getting ripped off. >>


Perhaps not.


<< <i>
And what do you mean, my judgement will improve? I bid assuming with 99% certainty that it was a very nice looking fake. You never know about these things, though. >>