Does anybody give (free) advice here? Plus some eye-candy from PGH

golddustin

I have a decision to make. After presenting this coin to David Hall at the PCGS table on Thur., he assured me that it would grade 100% full head - that the holder was so old that the FH designation was not noted then. I immediately thought "breakout the bubbly and the coin!", until Kranky pointed out that it may be best to have it cross-over so their would be no question about the color. This is my most favoritest coin of all, and I don't plan on getting rid of it for a long, long time. So, do I crack it & resubmit, send it in for a re-grade & designation, or just enjoy it as it is...a really nice coin that's undergraded. Doesn't FH preclude an MS63 grade? Here's the coin : This is in an ANACS MS63 holder...but I can't find a mark on it. I gonna give everybody a chance to help me choose, while I snooze, and I'll check back for a concencus tomorrow. Sorry about the eye-candy tease...the pics need to be transferred to my web-hosting site, and I'm too tired to do that right now, But there coming!!!

sliderider

Don't crack it. I think I read somewhere once that you can resubmit a coin already in a PCGS holder without unslabbing it. They will crack it out there for regrading and if it doesn't get a higher grade they will reslab it with the original paper tag so you can't actually lose a grade.

I distinctly remember in the article I was reading someone cracked a MS67 Gold $10 Indian and resubmitted it hoping it was really a 68 and it came back MS66, which really sucked because it was already a 1 of 1 piece in the original MS67 holder and was the finest known up until that time.

CoinHunter2003

As an ANACS customer I have to ask: If you are unsatisfied with the grade ANACS gave you;
why not send it back to them for a re-evaluation? Perhaps they made a mistake.

coin!

lordmarcovan

Great looking coin. I'd try crossing it over in its holder, so in a worst-case scenario you'll still have it in the ANACS holder.

Certainly looks FH to me.

I'm not used to seeing the spot where the drapery meets Liberty's right leg so well-defined, either. This is one I used to have in a PCGS MS64 FH holder. That's a great strike on your coin.

merz2

I have to agree with LM,submit for crossover.

Steve27

I see no problem with the color, so crack it out, and submit it. It would certainly grade at least as high as ANACS had it.

dorkkarl

it's a common 1917 type 1 in a common grade. there's no more common fh then that date, except maybe 1930. regarless of what price guides say, there's just not much premium for full head on a 1917 philly.

crack it out & leave it out, the plastic really adds nothing to the value of this coin, PLUS your gonna like the coin SOOOOO much more outside the plastic tomb.

K S

oreville

Oh good, dorkarl and I can get to disagree again!

Before I suggest a crossover, I want to see what the "old ANACS" slab looks like (the insert).

There may be more added extra value for that coin just staying in that old holder as is versus any other alternative.

After I see the ANACS holder, I might shoot for PCGS MS-64FB on a crossover. Nothing less will do.

nwcs

Beautiful coin! Enjoy it as is. And when you want to sell it, crack it out then for designation.

Tassa

<< <i>Beautiful coin! Enjoy it as is. And when you want to sell it, crack it out then for designation. >>

RBB617

I agree with nwcs, leave it as is. You know its a FH, even David Hall knows its a FH. It looks like a great strike and could very well be a candidate for an upgrade. When you want to sell it, then I would suggest that you try for the crossover, designation and upgrade.

LUCKOFTHEIRISH

You know what? She shows alot more than the PMM does. She is a "Girls Gone Wild" from the past.

ddink

Cross it in the holder.

tradedollarnut

If it's your favorite coin and you don't plan on selling, then leave it right where it is. Other than a complete collection where uniformity of the holder is a plus, I'd rather have a PQ coin in an old holder where I can daydream about the upgrade. It adds to the mystique and allure of the coin.

tjkillian

Even though it is a common coin and very common in full head, it is still a super cool coin because it is first year of issue, very affordable, and you can really see that the designer wanted to show Every serious collector should have one of those.

Tom

CarlWohlforth

That looks like a nice example of a good coin. If you must have it in a PCGS holder then I would cross at any grade. I would not crack it out. Otherwise I'd do as TDN suggests, keep it as is and enjoy it. I believe cracking it out and keeping it raw as DK suggests would lower the value, most people want to buy coins in slabs and DK has never bought a coin from me and thinks yours is too common.

Steve27

"After I see the ANACS holder, I might shoot for PCGS MS-64FB on a crossover. "

Where do you look for the Full Bands on one of these?

coinguy1

Keep it as is and, more importantly, enjoy it. But, if you can't resist the temptation, send it to PCGS for crossover in its current holder.



<< <i>Doesn't FH preclude an MS63 grade? >>

Absolutely not. The "Full Head" designation is completely separate from the grade, though some take issue with that way of doing things. PCGS has certified several Type 1 SLQ's as high as (non-full-head) MS67 and they have recognized a few Type ll's as high as (non-full-head) MS68.

100proof1957

Steve,

i think thats Full Boob !

ziggy29

I personally wouldn't crack it out yet. Anyone who knows SLQs at all can see this is a full head, and if you ever think you may be ready to sell, then play the crossover/crackout game.

That's a pretty coin -- the color doesn't look questionable to me at all.

oreville

Here is a side by side comparison of my PCGS MS-64FH 1917 quarter in a green insert above golddudtin's SLQ in the ANACS holder.

PCGS MS-64FH


ANACS MS-63

golddustin

Thanks to everybody - it IS a very pretty coin, in fact the images I posted are a bit dark, the truer color is in the smaller image of the reverse...I do have some pics in the holder, but again, I have to transfer them over to a web-hosting service and then post - I will try to do that this evening after work - maybe I need to contact Jeremy for some help! My prefernce at this point is to let it as is.....I enjoy the coin, since it is FH, (FB + N) or as Austin Powers would say "Is it cold in here?" and the color is pretty awesome, IMO.

golddustin

Oreville - does the insert in the holder affect the coin's value due to the actual holder itself, or the time frame as to when the coin was put into the slab? If it does any good, I can tell you I bought it sight unseen on Teletrade about 8 to 10 years ago. Would the numbers on the insert tell you anything? (I'll get the pic posted later this evening). I'll also look for the Teletrade invoice for a date.

Bear

The toning and luster look beautiful. Send it back to ANACS for grade review and FH designation.

Then If you wish to cross it to PCGS, at same grade or better, then so be it. It is a beautiful coin

and justly deserving of your affection.