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Calling on all Darksiders...any Nazi gold coins?

I have no clue, which says alot. Did the German gov't every produce a gold coinage during Hitler's reign? I've seen some plated material selling on the Bay of E
Prost!

Why step over the dollar to get to the cent? Because it's a 55DDO.

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,530 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No gold, unless there was a pattern, which I am unaware of. No Hitler portrait coins, either, except for a pattern.

    By the time the war began they'd even quit making silver coins, and from then on it was pretty much all zinc or aluminum garbage.

    Any "gold" Nazi material you see on eBay is either plated or a fantasy issue.

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  • GeminiGemini Posts: 3,085
    Yes they certainly made a messerschmidt of their coinage...image
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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,530 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There is an abundance of Nazi silver coinage available. They do pre-date the war but are most certainly "Nazi" coins with the swastika displayed prominently on the coin. The Nazi party took power in Germany several years before the war. As to silver content or premiums I have no idea but they must hold some kind of historical value.
  • What LordM said. I hate seeing those gold-plated nazi silvers on eBay. People just assume that if you gold plate something, it can be sold for stupid money. image

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  • I remember seeing a picture of allied troops in a warehouse filled with bags of coins. The Nazis diddn't think the little people should use gold or silver. they took that out of countries they raided and kept that. Lot of it ended up in Swiss Banks along with the Jewish valuables and French Louies.After the war when the dead didn't come back to claim it the Swiss bankers stole what went unclaimed.
  • GooberGoober Posts: 980 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What LordM said. I hate seeing those gold-plated nazi silvers on eBay. People just assume that if you gold plate something, it can be sold for stupid money. image

    P.S. - Please post any future darkside inquiries on the World and Ancient Coin Forums. >>



    Will do. I must be tired tonight. I went down the list looking for it earlier and didn't see it, just now I find it at the top....image
    Prost!

    Why step over the dollar to get to the cent? Because it's a 55DDO.
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,530 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A few Darkside posts on the US Coin Forum keeps it balanced and healthy. Sort of like vitamins.

    If it weren't for a few occasional doses of Darkside sanity, the flame wars would've burnt this place down by now. image

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  • << <i>A few Darkside posts on the US Coin Forum keeps it balanced and healthy. Sort of like vitamins.

    If it weren't for a few occasional doses of Darkside sanity, the flame wars would've burnt this place down by now. image >>



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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,530 ✭✭✭✭✭
    And you a Darksider yourself. Tsk tsk.

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  • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
    There were those Swiss gold coins made from Nazi gold that was stripped from the Jews and predated so nobody would realize where the gold came from. mike
  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well....not exactly a .....coin.......

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    and not ....gold. Silver.
  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭


    << <i>any Nazi gold coins? >>

    i believe the answer is no.

    K S
  • MSD61MSD61 Posts: 3,382
    No Nazi gold coins were ever produced for circulation. Those things you see on ebay are 2 & 5 silver marks and other general issue coins plated with gold. I love it when some sellers use "Nazi SS gold coins" in their titles which of course is a load of BS!image

    I agree stupid money is often paid for this rubbish.
  • AskariAskari Posts: 3,713
    No, there was never a Nazi gold coin. There are now, unfortunately. image
    Askari



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  • << <i>Well....not exactly a .....coin.......

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    and not ....gold. Silver. >>



    Odd. The reverse of that coin is similar to a 1994 German issue that commemorates the assasination attempt of Hitler.
  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here are a couple,not gold but,,,
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    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here is one in, I believe in aluminum.
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    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • Those are some cool coins; great history. Where can one acquire a couple of these in near-MS condition for a decent price?
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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,646 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There are at least a couple of nazi gold medals but no coins. There are several nazi silver
    patterns after 1939 listed in Krause.

    Don't be too quick to dismiss the aluminum and zinc junk made by the nazis. Some of this
    material is extremely elusive in attractive condition and lists for up to $20,000. Even the
    common junk made for homeland use lists for up to $500 in unc.

    Most of the nazi coins were exceedingly common in gem when issued but are now scarce
    even in attractive circulated conditions in many cases.
    Tempus fugit.
  • I once saw an ad in the back of Coins magazine years ago for silver bricks bearing the nazi swastika. I would imagine any silver or gold coins, artifacts, bars, etc. from the 3rd reich would be considered contraband, since the source of the precious metal used is questionable (they used to pull gold and silver fillings out of executed prisoners mouths and confiscated gold and silver coins and artifacts from all over Europe and melted them down). I wouldn't buy nazi coinage.
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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,646 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I once saw an ad in the back of Coins magazine years ago for silver bricks bearing the nazi swastika. I would imagine any silver or gold coins, artifacts, bars, etc. from the 3rd reich would be considered contraband, since the source of the precious metal used is questionable. I wouldn't buy nazi coinage. >>



    Hardly. Where would one draw the line? The world can't stop periodically and erase all traces
    of its past. Some of these things can also serve as a reminder of an evil time which must not
    be repeated.
    Tempus fugit.
  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A lot of these coins (mine included) were brought home by GI's at the conclusion of The War. These coins DO NOT glorify the Nazi era in any way as cladking explained- they can help remind us of the evil this era produced.
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • The US is the one of just a few western nations that allows the trading of Nazi memorabilia. It is a banned practice all across Europe. I don't think people should derive enjoyment from collecting items that are symbols of death and suffering to millions of people.
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  • << <i>The US is the one of just a few western nations that allows the trading of Nazi memorabilia. It is a banned practice all across Europe. I don't think people should derive enjoyment from collecting items that are symbols of death and suffering to millions of people. >>

    Actually, principally aside from France, Germany and Italy, it hasn't been banned. Although there might be something recent in EU law that I am unaware of which extends a ban to all member nations, I've noticed no changes in trade of such material. In any case, those are the three main countries that required eBay to not permit trade of such material on "their" eBays or for it to be sold to their citizens. Numismatic and philatelic items were originally excluded from the ban and I believe they remain so (or else eBay's enforcement of any tighter restrictions has grown lax -- always a distinct possibility).

    I disagree that people shouldn't be allowed to collect coins of fascists regimes -- or of communist regimes, which murdered even more people in the 20th century than the fascists managed to kill. There's a saying popularized by the ANA to the effect that "coins are history in our hands." In a day when there are already academics and politicians claiming that there was no Holocaust, I believe it is important to be able to preserve the reality of such regimes' existence lest they ever be romanticized.

    Several years ago, I gave the teachers and officers of a Sunday School department I led an appreciation gift of Widow's Mites. I can still remember their expressions at being able to hold in their hands a coin that actually circulated at the time Jesus Christ was alive and which may very well have passed through the hands of people known to us from the Bible. Being able to touch them made it more "real" and less "history from a book." The same is true of Nazi coins, which circulated in a regime which was the antithesis of Christ's teachings. Touch conveys a greater sense of intimacy with the past than do vision or hearing or imagination. There are some things we need to never forget the reality of.
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  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I do not look at Nazi era coinage as Nazi memorabilia. What about this paper money? Should we destroy this also?
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    Or maybe we should destroy this Japanese military currency----The Japanese government did some brutal things during that era also.
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    Nazi memorabilia is another matter.
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • As a side note, Japanese atrocities though equal or worse than those of the Germans were simply forgotten. Also, there were Allied atrocities in Europe, mentioned even less than those of the Japanese.

    Regarding Nazi gold coins, as a technicality, I say that they do indeed exist. I have seen one, and have heard of two other contemporary counterfeit gold 10 pfennig (regular issues are brass) used for smuggling gold out of Germany.


  • << <i>Actually, principally aside from France, Germany and Italy, it hasn't been banned >>



    I live in Germany. I can buy plenty of Nazi stuff here.
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,646 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It should probably be pointed out that most of the rules and laws in Europe to restrict
    the trade in nazi memorabilia has been directed at the neo-nazis. Most of the interest in
    this material comes from everyday citizens, collectors, historians, etc, but there are some
    who use these as symbols of "better" times.
    Tempus fugit.

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