Will I be happy? (Poll)

mikeschmidt · May 4, 2004 6:43AM

Bringing back my youthful days of yore - I no longer rip open modern packs of cards - and, thus, very infrequently am able to relish that magically child-like moment of anticipation when I open a pack of baseball cards. Occassionally I purchase a vintage pack here and there to rip - but I am usually only looking for cards of a certain player (no hints as to who...), and, as such, it is a limited buzz for me.

One of my favorite ways to re-create this feeling of anticipation and happiness is something that used to be the "norm" with PSA so many years ago. My latest submission has been graded - and I just received notification that my invoice was graded. In the spirit of preserving the element of true surprise - I have decided to foresake knowing the results of my submission until I receive the cards, via registered, insured mail, at my PO Box, presumably sometime next week. That way, I can relish the moment by taking each card out of the cardboard brown boxes, looking at its grade, deciding whether or not I agree with it, and anticipating whether or not it will be an "upgrade" on the projects I am working on.

So, all of that being said - the *curious* nature of myself is nonetheless at least somewhat interested in a signalling as to whether or not I will be happy with my grades. Thus, I am posting my submission number here on the Forum. The ground rules I ask you to respect are as follows:

A) DO NOT cut and paste any grades onto this post, or on e-mail to me. This ruins my surprise, and I thank you for respecting that.

If you don't know me well enough to judge whether or not I should be happy, don't vote.
C) Don't post anything about quantitative metrics (e.g. you should be happy with this PSA 9 or that PSA 10... or, I think you have 8 upgrades for your set....)
D) A simple "yes" or "no" vote is all I ask.

This is my first time doing something like this - and I typically do not share my submissions with the masses of strangers here on the Forum. I trust your judgments and look forward to your response.

Best-
MS

Submission #553495
Zip Code 02139

ejguru · May 4, 2004 6:48AM

ejguru · May 4, 2004 6:51AM

thejam · May 4, 2004 6:54AM

NO

ZodiacMindwarp · May 4, 2004 7:14AM

I applaude your willpower. I could never wait until the cards returned.

mikeschmidt · May 4, 2004 7:16AM

Well - I had to vote in order to see the results (and I plugged in a YES because of ejguru's post...), but I am feeling no better seeing such a divergent set of responses!

Aknot · May 4, 2004 7:23AM

Probably not because they took what was probably good cards and replaced them with Mike Schmidt cards. I would seriously complain.

KING KELLOGG · May 4, 2004 7:23AM

Marc....

I think I know you pretty well....

Sorry....NO, I don't think you will be happy......

Best

Larry

qualitycards · May 4, 2004 7:23AM

<< but I am feeling no better seeing such a divergent set of responses! >>

MS - What is good grades for 1 may not be to another. We the voters have no expectations and have never seen the cards before submitting. Only you have an inkling of what to expect. What we think (& vote) doesn't matter. When you open the box and glance thru card by card, that will be the vote of happy or sad...jay

Edited for spelling!

Aknot · May 4, 2004 7:24AM

Wow how does a card get a negative grade?

jackstraw · May 4, 2004 7:26AM

marc when you open the brown boxes is it like a pack of cards you just look for the phillies?

i think a good idea for psa would be ,maybe like every 25 boxes throw some cool card in?maybe hook up with topps and have them make a topps psa set numbered to 250 or something no losers just stars?

purelyPSA · May 4, 2004 7:34AM

Marc -

No.

toppsgun · May 4, 2004 7:42AM

Yes, if you like come-from-behind, fourth quarter rallies. Put in baseball parlance, your starting pitcher took an early shower but your closer is money.

1420sports · May 4, 2004 7:52AM

I voted, but I will let that be a surprise too

SoFLPhillyFan · May 4, 2004 7:57AM

Yes - IMO.

Don't know what your expectations are but I would be happy to own so many graded Phils.

Even though Schmitty would not come out of the dugout two weeks ago when he was here in town with the Threshers. He'll be back next weekend - maybe in a better mood.

If you like the grades - have a "cheese with" and a beer.
If you don't like the grades - have a "cheese with" and a beer.

I don't get nearly enough of either anymore.

Keith

sjeanblanc · May 4, 2004 8:02AM

Hi MS,

We haven't had much interaction, but I have followed your posts for the last 6-8 months and if these cards were selected with the care used on the 86 Topps Schmidts, I think you might be disappointed. You have a great eye for cards, so I think the grader might have spilled his Coke on these.

I voted No.

Scott Jeanblanc
jeanblanc@iconnect.net
Ebay UserId : sjeanblanc
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Collecting Nolan Ryan cards (68-94)

bill7549 · May 4, 2004 8:14AM

Wow, sooo many card with questionable authenticity. Where did you get these counterfeits from?

J/K I think you'll be happy, but then again, what do I know? If you were hoping for all 10s, then you will be sorely disappointed.

SDSportsFan · May 4, 2004 8:18AM

Yes, if you like come-from-behind, fourth quarter rallies. Put in baseball parlance, your starting pitcher took an early shower but your closer is money.

I think ToppsGun put it better than anyone...but I did vote no

Steve

Bighurt4 · May 4, 2004 8:21AM

I voted no, based on the 1986 Topps stuff you posted in prior threads.

Brent

qualitycards · May 4, 2004 9:08AM

How can anyone vote that "the grader of death" hosed MS, when no one but MS has seen the cards and he has no idea of the grades? ...jay

mrc32 · May 4, 2004 9:11AM

<< You have a great eye for cards, so I think the grader might have spilled his Coke on these.

<<

toppsgun · May 4, 2004 9:13AM

Jay, it's all about managing expectations. If 2/3 of us tell him how bad it is, then when he opens the boxes, he may feel better than if it was the other way around.

If anyone submits expecting all 10's, they need to get another hobby. Beauty pageant judge maybe?

aconte · May 4, 2004 9:46AM

MS,

I think I know your expectations and looked at what you sent in.

Overall, I say NO

This is a fun thread though!

aconte

GoSoxBoSox · May 4, 2004 9:58AM

NickM · May 4, 2004 10:30AM

What was card # 20?

Nick

mikeschmidt · May 4, 2004 10:45AM

<< What was card # 20?

Nick >>

I'm not sure - I honestly don't remember all that I put on the invoice (and don't feel like digging out the details, either). My best recollection is a bunch of 1980 Topps Phillies, a bunch of Mike Schmidt cards - including some oddball cards (probably some hand cut stuff, too....), and perhaps a few Nolan Ryan and potentially Willie Stargell cards.

The grades probably *should* be a tad lower than my "normal" invoice as I was trying to rush to meet the end of February deadline. That being said - many of these cards were picked/available at the same time that I made my last big Schmidt invoice.

For some further information, let me say the following:

With oddball/weird Schmidt cards, sometimes I'm just looking to add a graded example - and will look to upgrade in the future.

With the 1980 Topps Phillies cards - I was expecting primarily 9s with a handful of 8s and hopes of 1 or 2 10's (but guessing not based on responses here)

With regular issue/normal Mike Schmidt cards, I view anything less than a PSA 9 as a waste of my time.

Finally, as a frame of reference, I was overall happy with this following invoice:
Click here
Lessons learned: used bad methodology on some/most of the Hand Cut cards. I obviously did not know/expect this in advance.
Although there are many 8s in this invoice, this was more than anything my "oddball" invoice with all the Star Schmidt issues, box bottoms, Hostess cards, a bunch of OPC stickers, etc. I really was looking for 8s or betters on the oddball stuff - and was happy to have so many 9s thrown in, with quite a few 10s to boot. Was/am still very proud of the 1986 Topps Schmidt 10. Some of the 8s probably should not have been sent in - but I often don't have a hoarde of certain examples (stickers, etc.) by which to make "better" submissions.

NickM · May 4, 2004 11:03AM

mikeschmidt - considering what jtcards, dsl, and a few others have had up on ebay over the last few months and the closing prices, is it even worthwhile to submit 1980 commons looking for PSA 9s?

Nick

mikeschmidt · May 4, 2004 11:07AM

<< mikeschmidt - considering what jtcards, dsl, and a few others have had up on ebay over the last few months and the closing prices, is it even worthwhile to submit 1980 commons looking for PSA 9s?
Nick >>

They were all high grade SGC 96s (with a few 92s), and I conferred with a noted 1980 expert before deciding which ones I would crack and submit...

I had/have a similar grouping of 1981 Phillies SGC 96s that I may submit through the crossover service - as I am quite confident that they are not PSA 9 worthy...

So, in essence, I was pretty darn confident on *most* of the 1980s that I submitted - with a note that some of them I was probably only expecting 8s. I would have to get back to you as to exactly which ones... Just wanted to finish off my 1980 Phillies Registry set in one consistent set of holders.

aconte · May 4, 2004 11:13AM

Based on your latest posts MS, I'll change to a YES!

aconte

toppsgun · May 4, 2004 11:24AM

"MS,

I think I know your expectations and looked at what you sent in.

Overall, I say NO"

??????

Then, changes to YES.

Has SGC polluted your mind, Aconte, or just confused your reasoning?

Basilone · May 4, 2004 11:31AM

Marc-

I hate to say it...but I voted NO.

Basilone

Virtualizard · May 4, 2004 11:41AM

Marc,

I see you submitted a Hostess card - I won't give anything away, but, in my few experiences with submitting them myself, Hostess is tough! I had one on a recent submission that came back "questionable authenticity"!

Who would waste their time and effort to alter/fake a Hostess card?

Based on what I know, I would have to vote "NO", you will not be happy overall.

JEB.

aconte · May 4, 2004 11:45AM

MS,

Good luck with the 81's. I wish you had the last couple I need. Hopefully, Gator will come through in the clutch.

aconte

mikeschmidt · May 4, 2004 11:46AM

<< Marc,
I see you submitted a Hostess card - I won't give anything away, but, in my few experiences with submitting them myself, Hostess is tough! I had one on a recent submission that came back "questionable authenticity"!

Who would waste their time and effort to alter/fake a Hostess card?
Based on what I know, I would have to vote "NO", you will not be happy overall.
JEB. >>

JEB:
You may see on the other submission that I linked that I submitted (and got graded) all of the Schmidt Hostess cards. One came back an 8 - but there were way too many 5s and 6s for my comfort. One of mine on that submission did come back as "questionable authenticy", too. What a crock that is!!

Also remember that I don't pull the crazy 10s like you and dartonxx. On that first submission - 10% PSA 10s made me a very happy boy (even though most of them were 1989 Score cards...)

Golfcollector · May 4, 2004 11:43PM

nope, no sir, nadda, negative,

I would not be happy so I cannot expect you to be happy

carew4me · May 4, 2004 11:53PM

This looks like the results I get.

happy=No.

Tipem · May 5, 2004 9:32AM

I voted yes just to put some positive karma on your results.I hope it works !!!

Vic

RayDBonz · May 6, 2004 7:16AM

Wow!! I'd be down right hacked off & on the phone to PSA ASAP!!

Someone took all the real athletes like Sawchuk & Plante and replaced them with baseball players!! They just stand around scratchin' & spittin' & watchin' the grass grow.

There otta be a law!!

The minority section will now be quiet. I did vote yes even though I'll bet none of those guys can even skate!!

Bill

Will I be happy? (Poll)

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