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Are there ANY series that a middle class collector can complete in gem condition?

It can be discouraging to find that the key to a series that you are trying to complete in gem condition costs as much as a sports car (or a small house, or a really nice boat...). Oh, I suppose one could settle for a lower mint state or even a circulated coin in that case, but for some it wouldn't be the same as completing a gem set.

Can you think of any series that the average collector could complete in gem condition over the course of his life?

Dan

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  • Susan B. Anthony dollars can be completed very cheaply. Also "short series" of older coins can often be affordably completed.
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  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    Moderns. Liberty nickels (Couple of more expensive ones). Three cent nickels?, Two cent pieces.
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  • FC57CoinsFC57Coins Posts: 9,140
    At this stage of the game, you can complete an MS64FBL or even an MS65/MS65FBL Franklin set which would be both very respectable and very enjoyable.
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,323 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Shield Nickels.
    All glory is fleeting.
  • baccarudabaccaruda Posts: 2,588 ✭✭
    Modern Commemoratives. That's what I'm working on now. Enough to make it interesting and a challenge, but not so much as to overwhelm you.
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  • RELLARELLA Posts: 961 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Shield Nickels. >>

    Not the circulation strikes (1880).

    Not the proof strikes either (1867 W/rays).

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  • I like Liberty Nickels. There aren't too many of them and they are older. I think this is a very underrated series.
  • Of course I would have to recommend Jefferson nickels. It's a long series, but most
    dates are affordable. I expect PCGS will be starting a non-fullstep registry. There are
    also plenty of varieties to help keep things interesting!

    Ken
  • barberloverbarberlover Posts: 2,228 ✭✭
    With the exeception of I believe it's the 1872, the 2 cent series is affordable in the grade of 65 in brown or red & brown.

    Also somewhat affordable is the flying eagle penny since the 56 is not a coin but a pattern, so only the 57 & 58 are the series. 2 coins will cost you on either side of 6- 7 k total in 65, but a 2 coin series might not be what you had in mind.

    Their certainly aren't many classic series afforable in gem grades, but designation coins that don't cut it offer most dates in reasonale price ranges like non split band mercury dimes or as Frank said non full bell line Franklin Halves.

    Les
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  • ColorfulcoinsColorfulcoins Posts: 3,364 ✭✭✭
    Silver Roosevelt Dimes (1946-1964). Short series - only 48 coins. Easy to do in either white or toned. A complete MS66FB set would probably cost $2000 to put together. There are also no "stoppers" at this grade - the hardest coin is the 1963-D at 5 pieces (2 finer).

    What's also nice is that you can also upgrade to MS67FB coins.....they can start about $50 each and getting about 75% of them in that grade isn't terribly hard.....no more than about $300 or $400 per coin.
    Craig
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  • ccrdragonccrdragon Posts: 2,697
    Ya beat me to it, Craig... I was going to suggest silver roosies also...

    I have over half of my non-FB set complete in mixed 66/67 grades and I'm into the set for less than $1000.
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  • XpipedreamRXpipedreamR Posts: 8,059 ✭✭
    How about Roosevelt dimes? They're silver, and they're relatively cheap. I think they're cool looking. So there.


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  • tjkilliantjkillian Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭
    I would think that Proof bust dollars by die state would be a cool one to do. There are only a couple of years and they one of the most beautiful of the entire bust series. To see how the die wore as you collect the different die states would add tremendously to the collection.

    Tom
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Kennedy Half dollars. Every year is easily affordable in MS65. Plus you have no strike designators to worry about.

    Russ, NCNE
  • onlyroosiesonlyroosies Posts: 3,293 ✭✭✭✭
    Craig, I think that $2K number for a complete 66FB set is a little low. I think clooser to $3K would do it.
    A complete 66FB set should also put you in the top 10 if not very close.

    Still
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  • coinmickeycoinmickey Posts: 767 ✭✭
    Kennedy Halves- Russ beat me to it. Very affordable set and they are gorgeous coins in MS and Proof.
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  • cosmicdebriscosmicdebris Posts: 12,332 ✭✭✭
    There are many more choices on the Darksideimage
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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,631 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Any of the modern series can be completed in gem for a relatively modest outlay. In fact,
    one can still complete almost all of the modern series in gem simply by buying several mint
    sets of each date and selling off the non gem coins. The proof series can be completed the
    same way. This will prove more challenging than it sounds because the mint sets are getting
    increasingly difficult to find and some issues either don't appear in the sets at all or are usually
    not found nice in sets. Those which don't appear in sets can be located but gems can be ex-
    tremely difficult to find.

    Collectors will find these coins to be increasingly difficult to find raw as time goes on. Indeed,
    there are numerous signs that this door is closing. The most dramatic sign is the paucity of
    sets available at wholesale prices and the increasing numbers which trade at full retail.
    Tempus fugit.
  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    Dan, might I suggest a 50 piece classic silver commemorative type set?

    In addition to the affordability of most issues (more than half of them bid at less than $400 in MS65 condition), the set offers a number of great and varied designs which are often both interesting and historical. Personally, I'd much prefer that, to a set where each coin bears the same design.

    Edited to add: You did say "Can you think of any series that the average collector could complete in gem condition over the course of his life?" My suggestion presumes that you have a number of good years left. image
  • As mentioned above, Kennedys! I've only got $232 invested in my grandsons registry set....Ken


  • << <i>Liberty nickels (Couple of more expensive ones). >>


    I guess my perception of "midle class" is different...when I'm paying several hundred dollars for a cull 85 to finish the Lib nickel setimage
  • Mercury Dime '34-'45 Short Set, that's what I was working on for a bit... most of the coins in 65 are reasonablly priced, the 30s coins being a bit more... but still, I think it's a nice affordable set to do in Gem MS grades...
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  • SarasotaFrankSarasotaFrank Posts: 1,625 ✭✭
    Liberty Walking Half Short Set 41-47 - 20 coins. An MS 63 set would run $1200.00 tops, increase the price tag proportionately in considering the grade. Lots of nice examples, lots of color if you want it, and a majestic coin.

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  • The Lincoln short set (1934-1958) in MS66RD can be put together for about $3,000 or so. Makes a nice set!!

    Mike
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  • On the Liberty Nickels he did say "over his lifetime". There are a couple of pricier ones, but nothing in the "sports car" realm.
  • foodudefoodude Posts: 3,568 ✭✭✭
    Proof Jeffersons
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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,067 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Collect what you like and don't get too caught up with the plastic and all the stuff that goes along with that. There have been some excellent suggestions but perhaps expanding to your horizons to world coins is worthy of some consideration.

    Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.

  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,631 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Collect what you like and don't get too caught up with the plastic and all the stuff that goes along with that. There have been some excellent suggestions but perhaps expanding to your horizons to world coins is worthy of some consideration. >>



    World coins present excellent value and most are eadily affordable for middle class collectors,
    but there are very few series which are readily attainable in gem condition. World collectors
    tend to be a little less concerned with grade and much less concerned with third party grading.
    This results in having to find most of your coins raw which means it will be very labor and time
    intensive to assemble a collection.

    The exception might be British coins because there is more interest in these in higher grades.
    Another exception might be modern European because large percentages of the coins made
    will grade as gems.
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  • BBNBBN Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭
    I'm trying to get almost all of my buffaloes in AU-BU. Of course the MAIN keys I'll settle for less, but if I want most of these AU-BU It may take me 10 years considering I only have 10 of them. image

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  • BBNBBN Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭
    make that 11!!! image I just landed a 1914-S in BU condition. I guess that's equal to a team landing a 25 yr old 3 time pro bowl receiver to an 10 yr contract. A nice addition! image

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  • TrimeTrime Posts: 1,863 ✭✭✭
    Three cent silver in both proof and MS ( except type 1 proofs).
    Trime
  • BBNBBN Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭
    I agree that Kennedys can be put together. It takes time though. Not because of cost, but because there are just so darn many of them. If you want error coins and all you're looking at around 130 coins I think. Good side is because of affordability purchasing 5-10 in one shot on ebay from the same seller is possible.

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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    hey Dan

    i think a short and interesting set that can be enjoyable and as difficult as you want it to be is the Eisenhower Dollar Series. there are only eight years, yet there are different metals, die varieties, design types, coins released only for circulation, coins released only in mint sets. though the coins are available rather cheaply as raw examples, finding gems is the challenge. with the proof issues, i think it's interesting that they start just when the Mint is on the cusp of figuring out how to strike nicely contrasted and heavily cameo'd clad coinage and the series ends just prior to some of the best examples of that in the early to mid-80's. all-in-all it's a completableset that can be brilliant or toned.

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  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,625 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here's another question - are there any series that a billionaire CAN'T complete in gem condition?? And yes, there are many. So I would not get hung up on having to have everything in gem condition.........I think the key to collecting is to pick your level and then go for the choicest stuff you can find at that level......this allows even low budget guys like me to be conoisseurs, relatively speaking.....
  • BBNBBN Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭
    Very true, but if I have to spend the next 10 yrs completing my herd of Buffalos in almost all AU-BU then that's what I have to do. I want to own at least one showcase set of older coins.

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  • orevilleoreville Posts: 11,950 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dan:

    Why do you have to complete a set in Gem condition? Why not complete a date set in Gem BU first?

    That is the way collectors used to collect 70 years ago. Mint marks were not important.

    Then if you win the lottery you can fill in the missing mint marks but then again why do you need every one? Just a sample of each mm is good enough?

    This would put back the enjoyment into the hobby!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Don't be a slave to the registry set system? You can still have a GREAT date set and still be a part of the registry system without having to be #1.
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  • BBNBBN Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭
    I'm not a big fan of paying for plastic holders(PCGS NGC) either. If the potential Buffalo has a full horn and a nice rough terrain on it's fur it's a keeper! image

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  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭✭
    In some series, it's impossible for anyone to complete a gem set. Early goold and silver, for example. But I would be interested in watching iif Bill Gates were to give it a try.
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