Poll- Should eBay put canceled auctions in sellers feedback!

tlhoy

My first poll.

66Tbird

And a good poll it is!

puff

<< <i>And a good poll it is! >>



I agree....... Good poll tlhoy!

I really don't do much buying on Ebay, (in the way of coins), but I do watch alot of the coin auctions and see far to many so-called dealers, and collectors end their auctions early usually because of one of two reasons. Either thier reserve hasn't been met, (and the auction only has a couple hours to go before it ends), or because someone has e-mailed them with an "off-line" offer........ This should be stopped immediately in my opinion!

291fifth

But only if the auction had a bid placed.

Russ

Excellent idea.



<< <i>But only if the auction had a bid placed. >>



Excellent suggestion added to an excellent idea.

Russ, NCNE

solid

Yes, good ideas!

Maybe some sort of auction-completion score, showing the percentage
of all auctions that were completed successfuly - received bids, met reserves, etc.

Ken

mercurynut

YES! YES! YES! and YES!

prooflike

...and like having a blocked bidders list, I would like to be able to create a blocked sellers list on ebay.

joeyuk

I agree 100%.

coppercoins

I guess I don't get it. For the record I have never cancelled an auction of mine, and I have run thousands of them in the past. For that matter, I also never used eBay's picture service, never used their gallery, and never used reserve price auctions. I ran a straight auction with a minimum price, no bells and whistles. I often made 100% profit or better on the items, but they were all inexpensive, which ultimately took the interest factor out of it for me. My business there did just fine, I gave up doing it because the profit wasn't worth the time. I was spending 20 hours a week to make $150 a week in profit - not even minimum wage, and I didn't have the 20 hours a week to be spending.

My problem is that people put their coins up for sale and pay a fee. Other people bid on those auctions, so what if it's cancelled? Nobody has to pay anyone anything except the seller paying eBay fees. It only hurts the seller to be stupid enough to put a coin up for auction too cheap and back out of the auction before it becomes a sale. Find something else to bid on...better yet, just don't bid on that seller's auctions if you don't like their practices.

Feedback is transactionally based and has been since 1999. An auction that was cancelled (for whatever purpose) before a transaction was completed does not belong in feedback. Who is going to give the feedback? Someone who didn't ultimately buy the item, send money, and have the item shipped to them? The second bidder, third? They are all the same since all of them are in the same predicament...having bid on an item that didn't sell to anyone.

sonofagunk

coppercoins, but we have invested our time and resources researching the item, the selling and his past auctions. The way I look at it, I made an agreement that I would pay at max XXX for item YYY. After I place my bid, I cannot cancel (without a huge hassle), so why should they be able to cancel it on me?

I use to be a buyer from a well known person on this site that has been known to cancel a lot of auctions because he didn't like the price they were selling for. I no longer buy from him. Not worth my time or engery

rottnrog

There are a few sellers that make a habit of canceling their auctions. I Definatley think it should be either tacked or banned. Maybe Ebay should do something like charge a fine or double fees or something for canceled auctions!!!

nencoin

Quote: "After I place my bid, I cannot cancel (without a huge hassle), so why should they be able to cancel it on me?"

That's simply not true. It's as easy to cancel a bid as it is to end an auction. A few clicks and you're done, and eBay allows both to happen. Always have, always will. Although the idea of showing how many times a seller has ended an auction early with bids is not a bad idea, in my opinion. It offers a mild warning to potentials bidders that they may be wasting their time, just as drop-out bidder marks offer a mild warning to sellers.

chris

ksteelheader

I agree with Coppercoins! Also, do you think ebay cares? If they did, you would not have a way to cancel auctions................

Dave99B

Great idea!!!! There is a lot of abuse in this area. Sellers can cancel an auction AT ANY TIME before the end of the auction! LAME!!!

On the other hand, eBay isn't big on bid retractions:

"Your total number of bid retractions in the past six months is displayed in your feedback profile. eBay will thoroughly investigate bid retractions. Abuse of this feature may result in the suspension of your account. Bids retracted within the last 24 hours of listing may be viewed as bid shielding, which is a serious violation of our policy."

In fact, they don't allow you to cancel a bid at all within the last 12 hrs! (unless you retract it within an hr of placing it).


Dave

lathmach

I voted no, But I would say yes if the sellers could include a statement as to why they cancelled an auction.

This auction by a fellow LSCC member was just recently cancelled.
I had contacted Bill to discuss the coin, and upon further examination of it, he noticed some damage he hadn't listed in the auction. He didn't want the coin sold, and then returned because of the lack of a more detailed description, and a disgruntled buyer.

Ray

RCDB

Of course they should. One of the remarks the other night on the same topic said that once a buyer makes a bid, it is a binding contract to buy. On a no reserve auction, at the point the first bid has been made, hasn't the seller entered into a binding contract to sell to the highest bidder? OF COURSE THEY HAVE.
Any other point of view can be nothing but hypocritical

ElectricEye

sure, and how about listing how many times a seller has been temporarily suspended by EBay Corp.?

tlhoy

Wow, interesting responses so far.

"Feedback is transactionally based and has been since 1999. An auction that was cancelled (for whatever purpose) before a transaction was completed does not belong in feedback. Who is going to give the feedback?"

Coppercoins, I didn't mean to make you think someone should leave feedback. I was just thinking maybe eBay should put "Auctions cancelled (past 6 months)" next to Bid retractions (past 6 months).
Glenn

route66

Speaking for myself, Sometimes I make a mistake by listing auctions twice [more than I want to admit]. And I have to cancel one. Not for any reason like not getting enough money. I've never done that. Steve

northcoin

A great idea and about time. I once placed a neutral against a seller who had cancelled an auction only to be rewarded with a neutral being placed against me (my only neutral). Somehow I feel ebay is at fault for allowing such trite retribution. Just think if I'd given the guy a negative!

Since I was the winning bidder at the time the auction was pulled I was allowed to post. Not sure if that still is the rule but if it isn't I don't know why I have to suffer with the neutral that got thrown back at me for ebay eternity.