So much for better looking holders
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and I love those black inserts on certain sets like the '51 Topps All-stars
My point was that both PSA and SGC seem to be getting really lazy and uncaring about the finished product they are sending back to us.
Boot me off if you must
.......... but that's my experience.
Some of my sets look like crap thanks to a variety of holder configurations.
It's a pet peeve of mine. I know other guys couldn't care
A word of advice.Don't be peeving on your pets.They will start to smell!!!
Greasy Vic of the(whatever I was)
Vic
Ken
- Slowly (Very Slowly) Working On A 1952 Topps Raw Set (Lower Grade)
You keep forgetting the cardinal rule of graded cards: "Buy the card that fits the holder".
Some people just don't learn...........
BOTR
The one set I prefer in the Global holder is my '71 Kelloggs.
I may actually cross over the half that is now PSA for that reason.
Just call me Dimitree Jr.
........wait, on second thought just call me Francis.
I completely agree with you. Here are a few examples from my T218 set:
Cards in holders with inserts
Cards in holders without inserts
I think that PSA is strongly lacking in providing unique holdering for specific issues such as this. Even the ones with inserts are nowhere near close to what they should be in size to hold the card. It does seem that they get lazy on the holdering of these issues as well. Why isn't there some consistency in what holders/inserts are used for certain issues? This should be standardized. I think it's a shame that I'll eventually have to reholder some of my cards to make them presentable as a complete set.
JEB.
And yes, they are impressive
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I do love to show off my collection and I wish more of the set registry participants would do the same. I'd like to give a special thanks to those who do post scans of every card - most recently jvineyard and his '44 American Beauties.
As much as I enjoy seeing scans of these cards, I would prefer that some standard was initiated so that a set can be uniform in appearance. The T218 set that I'm collecting consists of 154 cards. I don't want to have to send 30-40 (or more) of them back for reholdering because they look different than the rest of my set. I thought SGC had this problem licked with their beautiful black inserts after receiving some oddball cards from the '50s and '60s, but I've received some dreadfully awful looking holders from them. The most noteworthy are the '70s discs. Check out this 1977 Pepsi Disc that has an insert that appears to have been cut out by a 5 year old child with dull scissors!
I wish I had saved the slab after I cracked out the card. A scan of the insert alone would have really shown how bad it is - not even close to being round. You would think that one of the top 4 grading companies ??? would have the resources to come up with a method of cutting a perfect circle out of a piece of black cardboard!
Sorry for the rant, but this is something that bothers me. When I'm sending in a $1000+ submission, I would like to know that I'm going to receive (at the bare minimum) accurate grading and a nice looking holder that is consistant with the population currently holdered - not whatever slabs they have on hand the day that my cards are graded.
JEB.
I was thrilled. (I have scanned them with what I feel the proper holder is).
When I asked Peter Ma about why this is happening all the time and to protest it, I got a bunch of double talk.
Yeah, bring 'em to a show to be fixed, just what i want to spend my time doing at the few shows i can get to.
I said "you know PSA may want to look closer at the product your are putting out, 3 day turnarounds are great, fancy certificates are dandy, but my $700 Feller Rookie looks like crap"......answer was something along the lines of corporate decision making can't please everyone, yadda, yadda, blah, blah, blah. Basically he said "get used to it, we see no problem, we are consistent because the people doing the sealing have each been here for seven years"
edited to add: and the psa3 Bailey is nicer than the psa4...objectively AND subjectively
Ken
- Slowly (Very Slowly) Working On A 1952 Topps Raw Set (Lower Grade)
In fact some bright star over there has decided to 'justify' all non-standard cards to the bottom of the holder. making most issues look clumsy and top heavy.
I guess that fine arts degree didn't include the basics of composition
unfortunately my bids weren't enough