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Morgan collectors, opinions appreciated...***GRADES IN***

BigAlBigAl Posts: 1,174 ✭✭✭
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been looking of an original 89-CC with decent rims and nice dark patina for a while now. Wish I had bought 8 months ago when the search began (price increases have been just sick!), but didnt see anything I liked. Finally picked one up on Friday image. I'd appreciate any opinions, including grade...


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  • wingedlibertywingedliberty Posts: 4,805 ✭✭✭
    Original VF30
  • FC57CoinsFC57Coins Posts: 9,140 ✭
    Nice original coin - F/VF - good looking coin!
  • TWODOGSTWODOGS Posts: 1,419
    Fine 18. In the pic I can't see separation between the two lower cotton leaves. Technically, it won't make VF without it.
    J.C.
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  • PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭
    Might be a little corroded depending how the dark area's are in person.
  • PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭
    If it's not a coin you have seen in person it might look more like this.
    Photoshop-auto levels.


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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,360 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice originality. I like the reverse more than the obverse....don't like the dings though..but may be hard to find a good, economical, one without them and they are small.
    I would rate it a Fine as well.

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  • Dog97Dog97 Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭
    I'll go with VG10 unless you can see both lines in the top cotton ball then I'll call it FINE. The 2 lines in the cotton balls are my picky area, I don't give the FINE grade without full lines.
    The rest of the coin does look like a low grade FINE though.
    Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
  • hamiltonjhhamiltonjh Posts: 1,140
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    good looking coin. I wouldnt mind havin it in my (meager) collection.
  • SDCollectorSDCollector Posts: 886 ✭✭
    I bought a similar looking 1880-CC on eBay. The coin looked original in the scan, but when I saw it in person it had several hairline scratches. Looked like remnants of an old cleaning. It was a shame since the grade of the coin fit nicely into my VG/F/VF Morgan date set. My lesson learned: no more $100+ eBay raw coins for me since I can't detect hairline scratches on the images.

    Do you have the coin? Any scratches? If not, then looks like a keeper to me.
    Bill
  • ultradmpldollarsultradmpldollars Posts: 899 ✭
    Looks like it may have been washed a long time ago, but still is a nice coin. I'd have to say about Fine-18, it is very close to VF.
  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,657 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice original coin.

    I grade the coin a solid F-12 at the major services(PCGS,NGC), possibly F-15, but just a bit shy IMO.
  • BigAlBigAl Posts: 1,174 ✭✭✭
    Thanks everyone for your opinions. I purchased the coin from my dealer, so I was able to give it a good hard look before purchasing. I don't think I'd ever consider purchasing a raw 89-cc on ebay. Placid, thanks for your photoshop enhancement, however the coin is actually darker in person, rather than lighter. There is no evidence of corrosion, but that would certainly be a concern if purchasing off a picture. I would grade the coin a nice Fine, either F12+ or F15. I base this grade by looking mainly at the leaves, but I also take into consideration the lines in the cotton balls and also the wheat ears. Overall, no major distractions on this one...just a pleasing 89cc.
  • paigowjohnnypaigowjohnny Posts: 4,257 ✭
    I'll bet a buck it'll get a VF 20 from any of the big 3. I think the graders will give the cotton leaves credit...the hair lines are solid, the wheat grains look well separated and distinct, and the wing lines are solid.
  • dollardudedollardude Posts: 1,263
    Very nice original find indeed, congratulations! There aren't too many original ones left. Looks like a VF20 to me. image

    Edited to add: << Looks like it may have been washed a long time ago, but still is a nice coin >> I take back what I said. It may indeed have had a very old cleaning, since it is a bit on the dark side, but it is still very nice.
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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,023 ✭✭✭✭✭
    On a Bad Day VF20 and on a Good Day, VF25. I think it is a decent coin and if you paid fine money you did well.

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  • wingedlibertywingedliberty Posts: 4,805 ✭✭✭
    CC dollars are treated more liberally by the grading services. Lock VF30 all day long when market grading is applied, as it is on CC dollars.
  • SDCollectorSDCollector Posts: 886 ✭✭
    Congrats! Great date...and I agree, definitely not worth the risk raw on eBay.
    Bill
  • BigAlBigAl Posts: 1,174 ✭✭✭


    Didn’t realize grades were in till Lablover chimed in w/ his (I usually ck 3X daily, today only once—so a nice surprise). In case anyone was curious, this 89-cc came back graded F-15, which is what I guessed on DHeath’s contest, so no surprise there. I was praying I’d owe paigowjohnny that buck though…….Altogether, not bad for $600.

    Oh yah, regular submission received 1/13/04

  • DHeathDHeath Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭
    Congratulations. We're approaching the entry deadline. You're looking pretty tough.image Nice coin.
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