My, oh my... Glad I'm not building a '61 set.
jimrupprecht
Posts: 75
I'm kinda into the multi-player cards -- even the ones with guys who are not household names -- so I was watching this auction and thinking I could grab it in the $20-40 range at the end. WRONG.
If you're like me, you're reaching for the SMR and pop report right about now to look it up so I'll save you the trouble. $25 in 8 with a pop of 12, $125^ in 9 with a pop of 0, and 47 total graded (25 7's).
Link to the eBay auction
-jim
If you're like me, you're reaching for the SMR and pop report right about now to look it up so I'll save you the trouble. $25 in 8 with a pop of 12, $125^ in 9 with a pop of 0, and 47 total graded (25 7's).
Link to the eBay auction
-jim
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1974 Topps
Regards,
Alan
Regards,
Alan
If the person ever decides to sell of the set in complete form...then the card will be factored into the SMR as only being a $25 SMR card.
John
Essentially, there were three people willing to pay any price for the card, and two (including the eventual winner) willing to put in $100+ early bids.
-Jim
Well I know of at least one set I am not going after.
Ed
<< <i>If the person ever decides to sell of the set in complete form...then the card will be factored into the SMR as only being a $25 SMR card. >>
John,
I couldn't agree more with the above statement... I know whan I look at a set purchase that is how I work up my bid...
I couldn't agree more with the above statement... I know whan I look at a set purchase that is how I work up my bid... >
The issue is that people buy the set at a spare no expense mentality and sell at a firesale (all at once) mentality. For the most part, you have to sell the cards the way you bought them...slowly & over time.
Regards,
Alan
John
John,
When you get down to the last 20 that you need...you'll pay almost any price!
Regards,
Alan
Dave
<< <i> I'm sure it sounds really stupid to some of you guys who drop $1000 on a card but if I overpay for a card, it drives me so crazy that it kinda ruins the set building experience for me. Unless it's a super rare card, I just wait for the right price. >>
That's not stupid. On the other hand, aren't '87 Topps Tiffanys rather hard to come by in graded form (except for the stars)? The way I see it is this: the cards themselves aren't scarce in raw form- and as a result, may not be scarce in mint condition. Who, though, is going to send them in? For you to take the chance on buying a bunch of commons, go through the time and expense of submitting them, AND take the chance that they'll end up in the grade you want seems a tedious and expensive way to complete a set. Sure, it may be the ONLY way you'll complete the set (unless those commons get popular all of a sudden because there's all of a sudden a bunch of '87 Tiffany PSA set collectors who make it worthwhile for those with vast quantities of commons to submit them. This scenerio is unlikely in this case.) I'm essentially in your boat with a set I'm "collecting". I say "collecting" because so few of the cards have been submitted and I usually pay through the nose to get anything in PSA 9.
I meant to start a thread about this very topic: 1) who is collecting a PSA set which has so few submitted in any grade? and 2) do you pay what it takes to get the card because you know very few will be submitted any time in the near to distant future?
Well -- as it relates to my Mike Schmidt Master Player Set -- I would say this: I try to get most of the oddball cards graded myself -- but I often will pay premiums for already-graded examples. With many of the oddballs -- it can be very difficult and time consuming to find an example in MINT or better condition. For example, if I can find a 1988 Flear Team Leaders card in PSA 10 grade, I will pay much more than it is worth. Absent finding one already graded -- I have to find either raw examples, or purchase multiple unopened sets, which bring about a series of costs for me. It is a labour of love more than anything -- but I still think that a large percentage of the oddballs in the set I end up grading myself.
I do sell a lot of Cubs cards, in fact, I'll be selling about 300 different pre-1970 PSA graded cards going as far back as the T205 era over the next two weeks. The Cubs have a world-wide following and there's not a better place to see a game than Wrigley Field. No baseball collection is complete without Cubs players!
Chicago is definitely my kind of town. I went to the National last year in Chi-Town and had a great time and hope to go back for the 2005 National. I know a lot of dealers don't like going there because their hair pieces keep on getting blown off.
Combine the great baseball with at least two major shows a year at the Donald Stephens Convention Center in Rosemont, and you have a card-collector's paradise . . . if you can handle the snow and cold.
POTD = 09/03/2003
Besides multi-player cards, I find myself strangely drawn to obscure vintage sets. Among others, I have been working on a 1950 Callahan HOF set for the better part of ten years, and have just recently decided to build a 1960 Leaf set.
I very specifically try not to pay unreal prices for cards... for me, part the the fun building the sets is finding the cards raw and having them graded, and trying to turn other collectors onto the set. In terms of the Callahan set, to date about 1300 total cards have been graded in the set -- I have personally submitted or caused to be submitted about 40 percent of those cards for grading. Not only have I gotten to meet and talk with a lot of other collectors about the set, doing this has also given me the opportunity to learn a lot about the set and its history, variations, etc. I am looking forward to this experience with the 1960 Leaf issue.
Of course, if a Mint Gehringer Dark cap suddenly becomes available I may throw caution to the wind and bid like a demon to get it.
Jim -- I am proud to own a few high-grade Phillies cards from the 1960 Leaf set -- I think it is an amazing set and very much underappreciated. (Was it that set that was packaged with marbles....?)
At any rate -- if you want to talk about a killer challenge, you should speak to Levi Bleam about the 1960 Leaf Big Head subset/test issue. Very cool and interesting cards that serve as a foil to the regular leaf set from the same year.
You are absolutely right! It's a great town. There's a lot of superb restaurants there too. The Chop House is one of my favorites.
Wayne
You have a couple of interesting PSA 8's, the 512 and 533 that should draw about $100 between them. the others are high pop, and i doubt wil reach SMR
the PSA 9 #214 may do quite well. Certainly over $150 and maybe over $200. i don't see any $500 cards there though.
Uniship: $450 for the Williams PSA 9 is actually a pretty good price. With a pop of 27, that is one of the highest pop PSA 9's in the set. A 10 would have been sweet, however!
Link to another A's Big Armor
I already have my $600 bid in...I just can't lose this card twice in one year!
Regards,
Alan
Just kidding. Good luck on this card.
JEB.
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MO gibsons steak house is the best place to eat in chicago .
ON ITS WAY TO NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92658
I would be willing to bet that you have never tried Chop House.
Wayne
The best steaks you'll ever have and you can have them at your doorstep tomorrow.
It's not $565 like the first one, but it might as well be...
Link to second auction
-Jim
Look at the New Additions to SMR thread on the community message board. I was trying to make the point that the smr was becoming less relevant all the time and I cited some 1961 commons that go consistently for multiples of smr and that there were enough transactions in them that they should be adjusting prices for these cards. I also said you were the expert--maybe you could comment.
Thanks,
Davalillo(JIM)
I'll go look at it and respond there.
Rob