I'm thinking that the toning on this 1885 Morgan is probably bogus.

Russ

To me, this coin looks AT'd. Am I right on that?

Russ, NCNE

stman

If it's in a NTC holder than it has to be good right?

Russ

Not in a holder. Raw coin. Of course if it were in say, a PCI or NTC holder, it wouldn't matter since both slab doctored coins as genuine.

Russ, NCNE

K6AZ

I didn't even have to look twice Russ. 100% bogus, no doubt about it.

prooflike

I agree with your thinking, it looks like it was toned with some sort of liquid.

Petescorner

The toning around the date looks bad. On the reverse, I think that's just a big coffee stain.

wingedliberty

Why, it most certainly is!. Looks like it came out of a Wendy's baked potato.

Brian.

Russ

Okay, good. I think I'm getting a little better at spotting the phony stuff. Of course, this one was pretty easy even for me.

Russ, NCNE

ohbaby

If it were in a PCI, NTC, ACG holder it would be genuine.

stman

<< <i>Of course if it were in say, a PCI or NTC holder, it wouldn't matter since both slab doctored coins as genuine. >>



That was my point, and they even put "Genuine" or "Authentic" on the holder I believe.

CLASSICS

hi russ..that coin does not look original toned to me..........

Russ

Stman,

With NTC "genuine" just means the coin is real and they're making no comment as to toning or grade. With PCI, it would be a red holder if they thought it was bogus.

What I was referring to is that both companies slab AT coins with a grade, and with no indication of a problem. Hell, PCI just graded a blatantly AT'd 62-D Frankie that I sent them as an MS64FBL, slabbed in their regular gold label "no problems" holder.

Russ, NCNE

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MEDIUM RARE.

stman

<< <i>Hell, PCI just graded a blatantly AT'd 62-D Frankie that I sent them as an MS64FBL, slabbed in their regular gold label "no problems" holder. >>



Russ, I remember that post. Kind of what I was getting at in a indirect way. But you sent it to them because you didn't want to wait for Pcgs slow times right?

dorkkarl

i hate it

K S

MoneyLA

even if genuine, why would you want it? what's attractive here?? cheers, alan mendelson