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What $13,800 Can Buy

I want to avoid another silly modern/classics war so PLEASE DO NOT POST ANY REPLIES TO THIS THREAD.
Solely for the sake of trying to understand the current coin market, consider this.
If you had attended the B&M Rarities Auction at FUN and had $13,800 to spend you could have bought one of the following::
1953-S MS65 FBL Franklin Half Pop17; 2 finer
Or
1850 MS63 Seated Dollar Pop 3 none finer
Or
You could have saved $3,450 by purchasing an 1870 PR65 DCAM Seated Dollar Pop 1 none finer for $10,350.

CG

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  • gmarguligmarguli Posts: 2,225 ✭✭
    I'd have purchased none of those, but....

    The 1953-S 50¢ is a rarity with FBL. Too bad buying a FBL coin doesn't actually mean the coin is fully struck.

  • mbbikermbbiker Posts: 2,873
    I would have to say the PF DCAM dollar. Wow what a steal.
  • Interesting idea, I would rather have a rare coin than a coin rare fully struck but thats just my opinion.
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  • LucyBopLucyBop Posts: 14,001 ✭✭✭
    Hey, I just shelled out over 14k, quit insulting my Frankie!!!!!!!
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  • << <i>I would have to say the PF DCAM dollar. Wow what a steal. >>



    I do love the Franklins, however, I have to agree that on a relative basis, I would prefer to have that Pop. 1, none higher, DCAM Seated Dollar. I'm not sure I would call it a steal though. image
  • relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570

    For me it would be the 1870 PR65 DCAM.

    It's got a lot of things going for it:

    a) A seated dollar
    b) A DCAM proof
    c) It's 130 years old
    d) It's a Pop 1/0
    e) I'm sure it's a beauty.

    If you really wanted to fuel the modern/classic debate you could have included a 1988 Olympic G$5 PR70DC in that price range.
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  • shirohniichanshirohniichan Posts: 4,992 ✭✭✭
    How many 1995-W SAE's in PF-68 could that buy?
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  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    Looking at the three coins CalGold posted, and the prices they went for, something is mightily out of whack. I think we could agree on that no matter what side of the modern/classic debate you may be on.

    Either some stuff is way too overpriced, or other stuff is way underpriced. Just figure out which it is, and you're off to the races! image

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

  • LucyBopLucyBop Posts: 14,001 ✭✭✭
    That is yet another awesome toned coin!!! I'd rather have both Frankies!!!!!!!
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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,656 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Kranky: Until you can't buy rare coins for a few dollars my vote won't change.
    Tempus fugit.
  • clw54clw54 Posts: 3,815 ✭✭✭
    You can get a 1953-S Franklin for under $20.
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>If you really wanted to fuel the modern/classic debate you could have included a 1988 Olympic G$5 PR70DC in that price range. >>



    You mean one of these?

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    I must be a smart shopper. I got it at a $13,700 discount.image

    Russ, NCNE
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,656 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A 53-S Franklin is available for $2. and is appreciated in high grade.
    Tempus fugit.
  • LucyBopLucyBop Posts: 14,001 ✭✭✭
    yeah, try getting a certified fbl for that price, my ms66 non fbl was a $250 coin. the 53sfbl is the Holy Grail to Franklin halves......
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  • shirohniichanshirohniichan Posts: 4,992 ✭✭✭
    Try getting a chain cent in ANY grade for $25.
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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 23,976 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'd have purchased none of those, but....

    The 1953-S 50¢ is a rarity with FBL. Too bad buying a FBL coin doesn't actually mean the coin is fully struck. >>



    Or that "MS65" means the coin is GEM.

    peacockcoins

  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Kranky: Until you can't buy rare coins for a few dollars my vote won't change. >>



    I'm sorry, but I don't follow what you're saying.

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

  • dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Kranky,

    Cladking is referring to his "the sky is falling" rarities that he is always rambling about. The reason these are cheap is no one collects them, and no one is likely to either. There are two factors that contribute to price, supply and demand. If there is no demand, the price is low regardless of "rarity". Cladking will continue to ramble about how the entire coin collecting hobby is hinged on people collecting what he wants them to collect, and not what they want to collect.

    As for this thread, there is not much as pretty as a DCAM Seated Dollar. So I will stick to my $2 1953-S Franklin, and continue to pursue what I like.
    Collector and Researcher of Liberty Head Nickels. ANA LM-6053
  • relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570


    Russ, if you were a smart shopper you save even more buying it from me

    BobbyL was selling a PR70DC for $12,500. If you can add one to your 69 you'll be all set.image
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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,656 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Looking at the three coins CalGold posted, and the prices they went for, something is mightily out of whack. I think we could agree on that no matter what side of the modern/classic debate you may be on.

    Either some stuff is way too overpriced, or other stuff is way underpriced. Just figure out which it is, and you're off to the races! image >>



    Kranky: I should have said bet since I was referring to your off to
    the races comment and bet is more consistent than vote. There
    are rare moderns which are available for sale at very low prices
    because they are not yet appreciated and/or because they are raw.
    My bet tends to usually be on moderns, though obviously all good
    coins and all good investments are not moderns.
    Tempus fugit.
  • tjkilliantjkillian Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭
    Well, for me, I could go for either Seated Liberty Dollar, but the Proof would be my first choice. 19th Century coins are really cool! Seated Liberty are the best. Too bad it was not a 1861 dollar as I REALLY need one for my set.

    Tom
    Tom

  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    relayer,

    I paid $13 less than yours.

    Russ, NCNE
  • TWQGTWQG Posts: 3,145 ✭✭
    Don't forget your seller's low shipping charges Russimage
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Oh yeah, and the shipping was less.image

    Russ, NCNE
  • relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570

    That was one I made and I actually cleared $15 so you got the right price.

    More often than not, I have to pay people a few dollars to take the coins off my hands.



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  • jomjom Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>How many 1995-W SAE's in PF-68 could that buy? >>



    Two? image



    << <i>For me it would be the 1870 PR65 DCAM.

    For me it would be the 1870 PR65 DCAM.

    It's got a lot of things going for it:

    a) A seated dollar
    b) A DCAM proof
    c) It's 130 years old
    d) It's a Pop 1/0
    e) I'm sure it's a beauty. >>



    You forgot:

    f) It's NOT a Franklin

    jom

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  • LucyBopLucyBop Posts: 14,001 ✭✭✭
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  • RegistryCoinRegistryCoin Posts: 5,117 ✭✭✭✭
    A '53s p5 fbl is a rare bird, indeed. A brilliant white one???
  • RegistryCoinRegistryCoin Posts: 5,117 ✭✭✭✭
    Tell me about it... I've had an original Brilliant White p5 fbl 53s (p6, but has zip toning) for some time. No one understands, unless you collect 'em.
  • RegistryCoinRegistryCoin Posts: 5,117 ✭✭✭✭
    Heck no. I agree. It's too bad. I think the market has been artifically "upped" a bit. People have therefore avoided it...
    But it's coming back. There are now some very attractive buys in the Franklin market, I think, both pf and ms.
  • What $13,000 bought at another recent auction:

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    Huh? Whattya mean you don't want a classic car?
  • Didn't this thread start off:

    "I want to avoid another silly modern/classics war " ?

    What would it be like if he DID try to start another silly modern/classics war?

    Mike

  • RegistryCoinRegistryCoin Posts: 5,117 ✭✭✭✭
    SC. Sleek, but wont fit in the current safe dep. box. The "big box" is wait listed. image
  • Dog97Dog97 Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭
    For $13,000 I would have bought that ms68 97 jfk and that ms67 97-p quarter that keeps my set outranked and with the change bought that NGC 1897 proof set lot # 553 that Superior sold during FUN. I'da had 8 more xx97 coins then.
    Since we weren't sposed to reply please don't nobody read this.
    Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
  • shirohniichanshirohniichan Posts: 4,992 ✭✭✭
    For that money I could have bought two South African proof sets from the 1930's (one with a mintage of 20, the other 24) and had money left over for some nice UNC rare crowns. It's a good thing I don't collect proofs! image
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  • baccarudabaccaruda Posts: 2,588 ✭✭
    ""I want to avoid another silly modern/classics war " ?


    It's like the forward to Huckleberry Finn -

    "PERSONS attempting to find a motive in this narra- tive will be prosecuted; persons attempting to find a moral in it will be banished; persons attempting to find a plot in it will be shot."

    and the teacher decided to spend a month studying the symbolism.
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  • boiler78boiler78 Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The 1850 seated dollar would be my choice, a very rare coin and IMO extremely nice for the assigned grade.

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