End Roll or Bag Toned?

Hadleydog

Here's a neat 1884-O Morgan I aquired a while back. The pattern on her seems to suggest end roll toning, but the colors are more vibrant and consistant with what is normally found on bag toned pieces. I posted 2 photos, one to hopefully show the pattern and the other to show the color. What do you guys think?

NBSQLGeek

Im gonna jump out and say with my young Jedi skills,

Bag

nwcs

I'm not precisely sure what it is, but I do not think this is a bag tone.

prooflike

It sure is purty whichever it is

nwcs

Looking at it more, I can see it being an end roll stored in a bag or other container. The hard edges are the hardest for me to explain other than end roll.

Dog97

Endroll. The paper was folded in such a way only 3 flaps touched the coin at the top ½.

kaleidoscopic

Hadley, I'd say its from a wrapper fold. I tend to think of end roll tone from something like a machine wrapped roll. Dog97, anything specific about differentiating between the two?

Kscope

Dog97

Before they invented rolling machines they used a wrapper. It's wrapper toned.
Machines make a uniform crimp with open ends that produce generally dark evenly toned coins while handrolled rolls have the flaps folded over in different paterns that make different colors.

berrydingle

i knew ol dog would have that answer, not only is he an awnry ol' dog (consistantly)
but the king of toned coin comments,

Dog, question for you......

are you ready ?

Hadleydog

Dog and Kscope, Wrapper fold....I love it!