Snipers piss me off.
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Especially this Washington DC variety....
I want this guy, bad. Give me a ball-peen hammer, and 30 seconds with him. That's what I want for Christmas.
Dave
I want this guy, bad. Give me a ball-peen hammer, and 30 seconds with him. That's what I want for Christmas.
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Byron
My first YOU SUCK on May 6 2005
One clean shot to the sniper's head will do just fine.
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Somebody that shoots civillians from 100 yards away with a deer rifle really isn't a sniper.
Unfortunately, it's not possible to position sharpshooters on every rooftop everywhere.
If it were, this wouldn't be the USA.
What astonishes me, is that (to their credit) - The police and ATF shut the whole world down in literally minutes, and this maggot STILL escapes. What's with that?
I'm hoping they gut-shoot this slime-bag, and turn the K-9 units loose on him, and don't call them off. Then allow the good people of the local area to tear him limb-from-limb, disemboweling him in the process.
"Sniper" is actually a noble term - one way too good for this scumbag. Snipers (in the military sense) save many lives, and are a useful and necessary weapon of war.
Someone will at some point see him. From there, the police will have to protect HIM I'd bet, although I'm hoping they'll be really slow to react in getting him away from the crowd. Now THAT would be justice.
edit:
sorry about the rant. This really infuriates me. If even for a moment, I believed they'd let me - I'd be on a rooftop looking for the maggot. (you may infer what you will about my military background and the number of "expert" bars hanging from my marksmanship badge - I'd be up to the task, without question.) I'd do it free too.
OK - I'm better now. /psycho_mode.off
In my opinion, that's the easy way out. But I don't see this guy(assuming there's only one) letting anyone take him alive unless he has a message he wants to try to tell. If he's caught alive, I think we (America) need to learn what would make someone do this. Aside from that, I think the guy is
P-O'd at the government since everything is centered around and close to the nations capital and the pentagon. Someone is mad about losing something and their blaming the government.
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Personally - I think he's just a whack-job. I don't buy the military or police training theory either.
A "real" sniper - wouldn't use the 5.56. It's not powerful enough. A "real" sniper would take head shots as well.
This isn't even up to terrorist standards. It makes no statement, there's no "honor" in it whatsoever. There's no (discernable) tie between the victims... it's friggin insane.
OK - another edit:
Where in blue-blazes is Mr. Ridge and our "homeland security?"
I'd submit that we have a crapload of fine young men and women who are already expert marksmen (marks-persons???)
that could be pressed (very quietly) into action on every bloody rooftop around. I mean, why not? This is an emergency, and severe measures are called for. I'd also submit It's high time for military action. Let's call up the National Guard, activate Reserve units, and put about 50,000 folks out there in Ghillie suits, and waste this peckerwood.
Just how much is a life worth? We're spending an awful lot of money chasing that whack-job around in Afghanistan, and that's just a few people we're after. Maybe I'm out of line, but it sure seems like they're wasting time and lives believing that the civilian police can handle this situation alone.
Since most of the shootings are in the Washington, DC and VA areas. This isn't exactly like a shooting spree. I think someone would be running state to state until he got caught but this guy remains in one area. So it's only my assumption that it's related to a grudge against the government. What would make this guy go over the edge? We had a large group of retired workers lose their pensions in my area, would that do it? And if the government failed to do something about it. This is just an example, but thinking along these lines may help capture this guy. Someone needs to come forward, a wife or a girlfriend needs to come forward, anyone who might have a clue. That's how the unibomber got caught when his brother said something.
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I'd bet the proximity of the shootings has more to do with where the scumbag lives than a focus on govt. however. I mean.. If you were that whacked anyway, why not take out politicians? - oh, wait I just answered my own question. This whack-job is killing INNOCENT people.
If he picked lawyers or politicians for example, it wouldn't be such a big deal.
I try to imagine what it would be like to start a normal day, and at some point in it, have your world come apart when you're informed your wife, mother, father, brother, etc. has just been blown away by a whack-job. What those people must feel is beyond my comprehension. I hope and pray not one more person goes through that... but I'm afraid they will.
I'm wondering why nothing happens on weekends? Maybe he has to check into a halfway house or something...
I've been wondering that myself. He may live in that area and he doesn't want to tip off the wife.
It's like as if he goes to work and returns home. This last shooting was tied too close to the nightline news. So the guy may be enjoying some limelight or wanted to see or get some inf.
on how fast officials reacted. This is all speculation of course. Earlier someone said no-one saw any vehicles leave but then there are reports that say otherwise. But the thought that the guy may have ditched the gun and walked into the store had crossed my mind. But that sounds too
far-fetched. One thing that may have some consistency is if this guy is thinking he needs to do this do this evil act 2-3 times a week. So he may be under alot of pressure to act and will get too gutsy and hopefully he'll screw up and get caught or killed.
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<< <i>I think we (America) need to learn what would make someone do this. >>
His mommy probably potty trained him backwards. Personally, I couldn't care less "why" someone would commit mass murder. I just want him dead, and dead now.
Russ, NCNE
comitus act disallows the use of military personnel in civilian law enforcement. Granted they have been playing
fast and loose with that lately, but it is the law for good reason. Pesonally I hope they catch this wacko alive
so he can trip on the stairs on a regular basis until his trial.
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<< <i>Those who suggest the use of military snipers to hunt this guy, while a great idea that is forbidden. The posse
comitus act disallows the use of military personnel in civilian law enforcement >>
Well they better change it, because I completely believe that this is a terrorist act by Al Qaeda, & I also feel that the FBI & local law enforcments folks aren't going to catch the sniper(s) without drastic measures. As much as I hate terrorits, those that hate the US have been training & practicing long & hard to make our lives hell, & won't be easy to overcome.
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<< <i>I think we (America) need to learn what would make someone do this. >>
His mommy probably potty trained him backwards. Personally, I couldn't care less "why" someone would commit mass murder. I just want him dead, and dead now. Russ, NCNE >>
Good point Russ- let's catch the bastard and end this. Long term though- let's also figure out the motivation and STOP (or, at least, slow down) the chance of this happening in the future.
I think we're smart enough to do both.
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I think we already expend too much effort trying to divine the "reasons" at the expense of eliminating the problem. Murderer dead, that problem solved. Move on to the next murderer, kill him, that problem solved. Do that long enough, all the slimeballs are dead, the gene pool is cleaned up, and we have a safer society.
Oh, and when we're done killing all the murderers, we can start working our way through the rapists and child molestors.
Russ, NCNE
I think we already expend too much effort trying to divine the "reasons" at the expense of eliminating the problem. Murderer dead, that problem solved. Move on to the next murderer, kill him, that problem solved. Do that long enough, all the slimeballs are dead, the gene pool is cleaned up, and we have a safer society.
Oh, and when we're done killing all the murderers, we can start working our way through the rapists and child molestors.
Russ, NCNE
AMEN
I think this may be more than a local wacko. It may also be more than one person. The essence of terror is not what happened but what might happen, not a one time plane crash in a building, its the fear that's caused when we all wonder if we're next. This has succeded in creating this fear and therefore qualifies as "real terrorism"
every crime scene leaves some type of evidence, which is being assembled.
Computor printouts of potential suspects to be checked out from FBI & Police records.
Analyses of shooter targets and anticipating new target areas based on profile.
A cordon of skilled police and FBI will begin to tighten down on a smaller and smaller area
Blind luck and fortunate happenstance often turns up an unexpected leador suspect.
An alert general public constitute perhaps 100,000 alert eyes searching and looking.
Many of those eyes belong to hunters, ex military, ex Police and active duty military, trained
to observe and report.
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99.9% of the scariest, anti-social people in prison would not kill innocent women in parking lots, just for fun. This guy is over the edge. Sub-human. As such, in this situation, he just needs to be snuffed out. No shrinks needed, thank you...
Dave
I lived less than one mile from the site of last night's shooting for twelve years. We just moved about 15 minutes west of Seven Corners a month ago. It was the Home Depot and the shopping center that my family has shopped at for years. My wife drives through the area daily going to and from work. She often shops the Sears store across the street from Home Depot. We are all very upset here about all of the shootings.
Having said that, I am also saddened to know that there are, on the average 40 murders a day, every day, in this country. It is unfortunate that the media and others seemingly place higher value on certain human life than others. Celebrity life probably has the highest value - the coverage can go on for years. Victims of serial killers receive all sorts of attention, as do victims of terrorist's murders. But we never see a news story open with the headline "40 people murdered today, and yesterday, and tomorrow ...".
Young children and teenages are routinely gunned down in Washington, DC and other cities - many are innocent victims. Doesn't their life have value also? Why don't these "less newsworthy" crimes receive news coverage at least equal to that a sports celebrity would receive for changing brands of athletic shoes or brand of breakfast cereal?
Yes, I know its easy to focus on crimes like this sniper/murderer, but I wish there would be a little more value placed on the lives of those other innocent victims and less on all the celebrity stories and sniper attacks. I'm not going to stop shopping at the stores I used to shop at and I'm not going to let media driven fear scare me into focusing all of my attention on this sick murderer. Lets hope the SOB is captured soon, and lets hope that the other, less less known criminals are also caught, and their victims also remembered.
<< <i>What next after rapists and child molestors, thieves and druggies. >>
Thieves, yes. In particular, the ones in my area - and, I'll be happy to pull the trigger myself. Druggies, no.
Russ, NCNE
"Give us dirty laundry" Drunk drivers still kill more people than are killed or murdered. You are far more likely to die driving to go shopping than be murdered. Its all about ratings to sell more advertising. Thats the nature of the Media beast. Entertainment, including news broadcasts, are our nations leading export. There is big money in violence because it glues people to the TV, its sad but true and untill our facination with the horror goes away and we stop watching, we will continue to see more of it. If there was only 1 murder a year in the U.S., you would be assured to hear about it.
The "conspiracy theorist wacko" gene kicks in sometimes and I wonder whether there's more to it than meets the eye.
I'd hate to think that anybody but a complete psychopath would perpetrate such heinous acts, but - it does make news.
It's bumped saddam off the front page, it's bumped Osama bin-what's-it's-name off the front page... now we're concerned about things other than just the economy...
Who knows? Maybe we'll never have an answer and he'll disappear just like the zodiac did.
I personally think the victim's families should have the right to beat him to death.
Clackamas,
Very well stated.
It's great to kill the murders each time, but there is still that dead victim that would probaby have rather lived then to simply see his sniper also dead.
I want to do what you want but I also want more.
We are smart enough for that.
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Al Qaeda doing this. But I sure hope we are both wrong.
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but that's all besides the point...
the real problem is that our society embraces this garbage. the average american can probably name more serial killers than US presidents. americans eat this up. this guys probably hoping for remington endorsement and a lucrative book deal - and americans would buy it all up. they'd be selling spent shells on ebay.
the news rarely focuses on personal acts of true accomplishment - people never want to hear about others being more motivated or inspired than they are, they want to focus on stories of human misery. people love this jerry springer cr*p.
consider these two stories.
- runningback robert edwards tore all 4 ligaments in his knee in a freak injury during an exhibition game on the beach. he was coming on as the next big thing in the NFL. it was unlikely that he would walk again, and doctors considered amputating his leg. after a few years, he's rehabilitated himself and is not only walking, but back in the NFL.
- perennial troublemaker randy moss drives into a traffic cop and smokes pot.
now tell me who's getting the airtime and endorsements?
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This common criminal needs to be caught NOW even if the police, fbi, atf, and other agencies have to break our protect-the-criminal-laws we have in this great country. Go ahead and bring in the military. The press is playing him up too much. If the press would not blast this cr*p at us all day long it let him know how insignificant he is. Right now he is probably in his heights of glory knowing the news is all about him. This sicko needs the attention--why does the press play into his needs?
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<< <i>The only one I can see evading a law enforcement officer is a law enforcement officer. >>
...........momoney, you have a good point, isnt it amazing, this guy kills someone in broad daylight, while a police officer is only a few hundred feet away.....sounds like he knows where the cops are. and where they are going. maybe he has a special radio that informs him where the police are. hummmmm
"I'm hoping they gut-shoot this slime-bag"
I'm willing to bet that the slime-bag himself is also hoping the same thing. It seems to me like these acts are being committed by somebody intent on suicide.. somebody who wants to make a sport out of it in the process.
<< <i>Hmm.. a deranged SWAT team member, perhaps? >>
Not likely. I am a firearms instructor and I teach counter sniping to law enforcement and military units. I highly doubt that this perpetrator is a product of US law enforcement or military. I believe the shooter (I won't call him a sniper because he isn't), has as his ultimate goal to show his superiority (which he doesn't have) and contempt, or he is a terrorist (the Mediterranean variety).
Despite his kills, he has not shown true sniper characteristics. He shoots from estimated distances of 100 to 150 yards (well within the ranges of a competent rifle shooter - but not a sniper). The caliber of weapon he uses (.223 caliber or 5.56 NATO) is suited for sniping within 400 yards if the rifle has been somewhat accurized. A highly accurized .223/5.56 NATO rifle is capable of extreme accuracy out to 800 yards, but few shooters in the world could make a shot at that distance. I build these kind of rifles for LE and Military.
I believe the shooter is a terrorist from a local cell who is trying to instill terror in the public at large. I consider this person to be a fanatic and not a professional; an as such he will eventually give himself away and be captured (or get killed in a capture attempt). His goal is to show that a single person with moderate skills can wreak havoc and instill terror upon the population at large.
All of the above being said, it will still be difficult to catch him. He can move into position, take the shot and move out - all before anyone can detect him. His weakness is that he is not a true professional, and he is a fanatic. These two things will be his undoing. Additionally, now that his nationality is suspected, he will find it almost impossible to utilize safe houses as he (and his companions) has successfully done in the past. He is running out of places to hide by remaining in the general area where he is doing his killing. That alone, makes him an unprofessional, and destined for capture or a showdown.
BTW, a SWAT trained LE or Military officer, would have handled the shootings very differently. That is why I don't believe the shooter to be one of our LE or military Special Response Unit professionals. Without going into great detail, suffice that to say.
If the suspect is a terrorist, I believe he will allow himself to be captured alive - unless he can cause substantial deaths along with his own (explosion type). If the suspect is an American out to prove his superiority and control, he will kill himself or do "suicide by cop" when cornered.
We execute all who offend you, those who prowl the streets and steal from our defenseless spouses. What about those who steal billions through corporate fraud or maybe cheat you on ebay? kill them too?
Don't get me wrong, I think our prison system is a joke, we need some real deterants for punishment but to just kill off anyone who takes your precious material possessions is an emotional reaction at best and a real egomanical one at worst. You're not GOD and you can't kill off all you hate and fear.
<< <i>And end it will. >>
May God grant JR the vision to have made a prophetic statement. I would add to that - "quickly, and with extreme prejudice."
I believe JR is right on the money with his observations. Sort-of what I was trying to say, but his explanation was far better worded than mine.
As for the common street-thug... The Second Amendment should be exercised by those who refuse to be victims. My wife carries a concealed SigSauer, and knows how to use it. Sure - it won't solve every problem, but I'd submit it's far better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it. Word gets around quickly in the thug world that dying for "$7.25" just ain't worth it. Unfortunately in this case - it would have no effect. This jerk-*off is a psycopath.
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