Eagle Crossed from ACG to PCGS

tjkillian · October 12, 2002 1:14AM

Here's a 1861 Eagle that I bought off of Ebay. It was in an ACG holder which I cracked out and sent to PCGS. PCGS graded the coin and is now in one their slabs. What was the ACG grade and what is the PCGS grade?

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MadMarty · October 12, 2002 1:17AM

You are a much braver man than I to buy an Eagle in an ACG holder!!!

wingedliberty · October 12, 2002 1:17AM

ACG 62
PCGS 58

Brian

TWODOGS · October 12, 2002 1:19AM

ACG MS-63.....PGCS AU-50

JJacks · October 12, 2002 1:21AM

I don't know.

I will guess:

ACG - 63
PCGS - 58

It will be fun to see when you update us!

JJacks

BigE · October 12, 2002 1:26AM

ACG MS-60, PCGS EF-45

Mark · October 12, 2002 1:26AM

tjkillian, when you crossed this coin, did you send it to PCGS in the ACG slab or did you break it out and then submit the coin raw?

Mark

stujoe · October 12, 2002 1:31AM

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tjkillian · October 12, 2002 1:31AM

Mark,

I cracked it out of the ACG slab and sent it to PCGS raw.

Tom

Russ · October 12, 2002 1:35AM

The scan of the reverse isn't clear enough to offer a grade assessment.

Russ, NCNE

tjkillian · October 12, 2002 1:40AM

Russ, you are right, let's see if this helps.

Russ · October 12, 2002 2:06AM

ACG - MS65
PCGS - MS60

Russ, NCNE

littlewicher · October 12, 2002 2:11AM

ACG MS75

PCGS AU-50.

BigE · October 12, 2002 2:13AM

Russ, I will bet you a MS 63 PCGS Morgan that it is AU 55 or less!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!------------BigE

DCAMFranklin · October 12, 2002 2:24AM

ACG - AU-58
PCGS - AU-53

Russ · October 12, 2002 2:32AM

BigE,

You mean my proprietary wild-ass guess gold grading method might be inaccurate?

Russ, NCNE

BigE · October 12, 2002 2:34AM

LOL Russ, how about AU 50 or less

-------------------BigE

Dog97 · October 12, 2002 2:36AM

Probably was a acg 63 & now pcgs 58??

gmarguli · October 12, 2002 2:41AM

ACG MS62
PCGS AU55

clw54 · October 12, 2002 2:59AM

PCGS AU-50.
ACG AU-58.

dorkkarl · October 12, 2002 3:28AM

pcgs ms-61, acg ms-64

66Tbird · October 12, 2002 3:34AM

ACG 58
PCGS 45

mbbiker · October 12, 2002 3:50AM

ACG - MS-62

PCGS - MS-60

leothelyon · October 12, 2002 3:59AM

I think they're both are in the BU range and within a point or two of each other.

Leo

09sVDB · October 12, 2002 4:53AM

ACG 63
PCGS 55

tjkillian · October 12, 2002 5:00AM

Ok, it was graded by ACG as MS-60 and then PCGS graded it AU-53. Not too bad as I only paid AU money for it. My biggest concern when buying it was whether it was genuine or had been cleaned. Now that it is in a PCGS holder, I'm happy.

Tom

Russ · October 12, 2002 5:08AM

Oh yeah, that's what I meant! I just typed it wrong. Damn keyboard!

Russ, NCNE

stujoe · October 12, 2002 5:15AM

keets · October 12, 2002 5:27AM

ACG------MS something.

PCGS----AU anything.

i'm assuming you know gold well and were certain this piece was genuine. i know squat about gold so it's a chance i never would have entertained. nice pick. i'll bet you got it for a good price.

al h.

edited to say "if i would have read the thread all the way through before posting........"

clw54 · October 12, 2002 5:42AM

<< <i>Ok, it was graded by ACG as MS-60 and then PCGS graded it AU-53. Not too bad as I only paid AU money for it. My biggest concern when buying it was whether it was genuine or had been cleaned. Now that it is in a PCGS holder, I'm happy.

Tom >>

I was close for once.

(guessed PCGS AU-50, ACG AU-58)

DCAMFranklin · October 13, 2002 3:08AM

NAILED IT!!

Tom-
You paid AU money for the coin and now it resides in a PCGS AU-53 holder. I would think you came out OK on this coin. Not a perfect example, however, sometimes the ACG coin goes sooooo cheap, if you get the coin to cross reasonably close, you come out a BIG winner. Without question if you know how to grade accurately, it makes great economic sense to pay attention to the ACG coins, see if you can buy them "right" and then crack them out for a new holder. People who summarily dismiss the ACG holder as "AccuTrash" are being foolish. Probably 25% of those ACG coins are "diamonds in the rough" just waiting for an astute collector to put them a quality holder and pocket the profits!

keithdagen · October 13, 2002 3:35AM

Yesterday, I had a dealer friend show me a ACG MS-67 Liberty Nickel that he had bought for grins. I kid you not when I say that the coin fairly graded out problem-free, as a GD-06 piece. No Liberty across the headband, but solid rims.

TheNumish · October 13, 2002 6:05AM

Keith, I saw that coin a few weeks ago and thought it was very funny. Put it up on the board for show and tell. Here it is again.

Just in case you don't realize it someone took the original coin out and replaced it with this circ coin.

robertpr · October 13, 2002 11:26AM

<< <i>People who summarily dismiss the ACG holder as "AccuTrash" are being foolish. >>

I believe I nicknamed the service "AccuCRAP", thank you very much!

Blade · October 13, 2002 11:48AM

Numish,
I saw it too - hilarious. Tells you something about the security of the ACG holders...

Dabigkahuna · October 13, 2002 12:20PM

You still have to be careful you don't get bit in the (edited) by a rim ding or tooling or wizzing or counterfeit oh!...you know what I mean.

Larry
Dabigkauna

Eagle Crossed from ACG to PCGS

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