1876 CC Off-center dime, a really neat piece!

gsaguy

I met an interesting couple from Arizona who showed me this really neat piece at LB. I took the photos with my digital so they're not great. The coin is certified by NGC but I don't recall the exact grade....MS64 or 65 if I remember correctly.

The owners were wondering about the coin's value. Can anyone help?

Thanks,

GSAGUY

gsaguy

Second try....with scans!

GSAGUY

HuliganRS

Kool !!!

nucklehead

GSAGuy, that is way cool! I love classic errors.Btw your photos were very good.

gsaguy

TTT

gmarguli

Email a link to this thread to Fred Weinberg. He'll know.

I've asked him abount value a few times while at Long Beach and he was always very nice and helpful.

darktone

gsaguy- have you tried looking at the past auctions at B&M or Heritage? Maybe you will run across something there that is close. mike

shirohniichan

Wow, and a double-die obverse, too!

KoinKollector

Sweet coin!!! Its a off center & it appears to be a DDO-1. MS64/65? Im guessing the coins is worth 5500-7000. Awesome coin. Have owners send it to me for safe keeping

boiler78

Thats a great coin! I don't collect errors but thats one I wouldn't mind owning. Might be a good auction coin at a major show since its not something you can find on the bourse floor.

numobri

This might help. 1890 Seated Liberty Dime Struck 30% Off-Center
PCGS AU 55

Major Off-Centers on Liberty Seated Dimes are very scarce. The only other comparable piece is a 35% off-center in AU 50, which is currently on the market for the same price. Other than these two examples, which are way off-center, the other few that are know are generally struck 5% to 10% off-center.


$7,500
http://www.byersnc.com/errorstypepre1900.html

Byers

Good going!! My off-center, plus the one in this thread, plus 1 that Fred Weinberg has, are the only 3 major off centers that I am aware of...

Mike Byers

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boiler78

Mike- What do you think the coin in the thread would bring at auction?

Byers

I would want verification of the grade. It makes a difference. A 20% O/C Seated Dime, with a CC mintmark, is worth in my opinion: $4000. in AU 50-58, but if it's certified a 64 or 65- it would jump to $7500 plus.

Mike Byers

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KoinKollector

MIke, so the fact its also a DDO wouldnt add any value to a error collector? Also, are cc errors really that rare or just more wanted because of the lil "cc" on the reverse?

nwcs

Neato! I wonder how common (contemporarily speaking) errors are now versus then? Wouldn't it be cool to see an offset 1799 dollar coin or something?

shirohniichan

I'd think the DDO obverse (or any scarce variety, for that matter) would add to the price, as it brings another point of interest to the coin. Too bad it doesn't show clashing with a quarter eagle.

KoinKollector

Pat,
Im sure it would as well, to people like us. Would a error collector really care if his MS64 20% O/C SD is or isnt a DDO?

Byers

Double dies, other variety errors, and minor extras (struck thru, rim clip, partial collar-as examples) etc etc, do NOT add ANYTHING. I have found that most serious collectors of major and expensive errors want a "perfect and simple" example. If its a Kennedy Half on a quarter blank, thats what they want. Not one that's also 2% off center,with a struck thru area obliterating 2 letters, and a DDO. Major double errors are another story. If it's a Kennedy Half on a quarter blank, and also 50% Off Center with a brockage-that's a different story. A DDO or DDR or both- are die errors- not striking errors, and aren't fancied by most major collectors of STRIKING errors. These variety errors and double dies have a strong collector base too- but not with most collectors of striking errors.

Mike Byers

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shirohniichan

My point was that if a coin has more potential buyers, it can bring a higher hammer price. For example, if a variety collector is thrown into the bidding on this coin, he may represent another bump in the bid.

I don't collect errors, but I would bid strongly on an 1875-CC I/II or 1876 II/II trade dollar error because of the scarcity of the variety. In other words, the rarity of the coin would be my lead-in to bidding on an error coin than would normally be a mild curiosity.

Byers

Shirohniichan- good point from a different angle....


Mike Byers

KoinKollector

I guess its my take, as a seated dime collector, that the coin would be worth more (to me atleast) because of the DDO. Basically you have two kinds of error collectors, error collectors, series collectors who branch out a lil to include errors inside their series, i would the the latter.