Anyone own a Plate Coin?

braddick

Anyone own a coin that was either featured, full page, in an auction catolog or was a Plate Coin in a Numismatic reference book? I see them occassionally offered and always thought that would be cool.
"Hey! See this here big penny? Now look! It's right there in this Red Book!"
(About now is when my wife would shrug and tell me to take out the garbage.)

FC57Coins

I can relate to the garbage detail Pat, as for the plate coin, I'm still looking for one!

Frank

Coin Finder

I have a Large Cent in my collection that has been in the Red Book for three years. In the 2002 Red Book it is on page 82 of the spiral bound edition. It has " Style 2 Hair" as the caption. It is also in the 2003 edition and the 2000 edition I think also. It is dated 1802.

Tbig

Purchaised from Bowers and Merena. Spoke with Mark B about it. He said that Red Book took sereral pics from their inventory a few years back to use.

Mark

I have a pattern that Andy Pollock was kind enough to picture in his book on patterns. My coin is P-737 (J-662), on page 173. (And yes, I did have the book in front of me. I am not enough of an egotist to have memorized this information about my coin.) The coin is a minor variation of a non-adopted $5 dollar gold piece and is struck in copper.

I also presume that the pattern P-149 (J-127), on page 57 in the Pollock book, is now mine because the pictured coin was from the Bass collection and I purchased the Bass coin. This coin is a nifty cent pattern with a hole in the middle.

Mark

braddick

See? I think that is totally cool. It would be neat to own a coin attributed to another work.
I know ANACS used to state "Plate Coin" on their insert (with the proper proof). Do you think NGC or PCGS would do that?

tradedollarnut

I used to own the Norweb 1884 trade dollar for about 3 years. During my ownership, it was (and still is) the Redbook plate coin for trade dollars.

I traded that 1884 in on my last 1884, which just got traded in on the Eliasberg 1884!

Mark

TDN:

I truly don't understand you!!! Why don't you simply accumulate 1884 trade dollars, just as Russ and others do with 1964 Kennedy halves? Why do you keep getting rid of one 1884 merely to replace it with anohter??

Yours in puzzlement,

Mark

P.S.: More seriously, what a remarkable achievement. When you look at each of these 3 coins, what thoughts come to your mind?

braddick

I duplicate Mark's request: Which of the three did you like the best (I know, that doesn't necessarily equate to the highest graded)?

Can you imagine owning all three today?

tradedollarnut

Guys:

I seriously considered hoarding the 1884's as I thought they were undervalued, but .... so many coins, so little time!

I liked the Norweb coin quite a bit even tho it has many hairlines. Farouk used to clean all his silver coins as you know. When I bought it, the coin was in a 62 holder but subsequently went into a 63 holder. I believe that was the correct grade.

The Wolfson-Menjou coin used to be in an NGC PF64 holder. Then it was dipped and ended up in a PCGS PF65 holder. It has a nice look to it - full cameo - but too many hairlines for my taste. I always felt it was a high end 64.

The Eliasberg coin is amazing. It's fully struck and deeply mirrored with golden toning. One or two tiny lines and a trace of a fingerprint on the reverse are the only flaws I can detect. It is cameo underneath the golden toning. I am soooo happy to have purchased the coin that I can hardly stand it! Now my proof set is an evenly matched PF66 across the board and the two Eliasberg coins once again reside in the same collection. In addition, I love the coin. NOW THAT IS WHAT COLLECTING IS ALL ABOUT!!!!!!!!

braddick

TDN: You mention one or two remnants of an old fingerprint on the Trade dollar. Would you consider having NGC's new service currate it off for you? If it means anything, I have an MS68 1976 Ike, NGC holdered that had the same problem.
Greg was kind enough to submit it along with a few of his own coins earllier this summer and the coin was returned to me in a fresh holder with the fingerprints GONE.
The integrity of the coin remained- along with its original skin. The coin has a silky golden irridesence that would be missing even with one full dip, so I know that is not what they did to remove the fingerprints.

Of course were talking apples and oranges here as my "downside" was only a few hundred dollars whereas yours is in the tens of thousands, but maybe it is a consideration?
If you're so inclined, PM Greg- he could probably tell you more as to what to expect.

Russ

TDN,

I was just looking at your proofs in the set registry and WOW! I think PCGS should make an exception and let you include your NGC examples. On a set this rare, this phenomenal, and this expensive, it's stupid of them to force it to stay incomplete in the registry.

Russ, NCNE

Nic

TDN,
Your accomplishments with the trade $ series are truly AMAZING and will be remembered for as long as U.S. coins are collected. K
Edit to add...
Oh, forgot, have a few plate coins. Like the cover pic/ featured 1794 $ in Bowers new book. Wish it were the Amon Carter coin K

tradedollarnut

Shucks... now I'm getting tingly.

Thanks!


Regarding the fingerprint - the possibility that it's Eliasberg's (or Atwater's) is probably enough for me not to mess with the coin. Adds a bit of mystery don't you think?

braddick

Good point!
You never know when Numismatics may take an interesting (if not disturbing!) twist down the road and collectors seek out the DNA of past famous Collectors...

shirohniichan

I used to own the 1861-S seated half with an assayer's chop (the only one known) from Rose's book, Chopmarks, but I sold it.

dbldie55

I own most of the plate coins for my upcoming book. I will distribute copies as soon as I actually write it. Still waiting to get the rest of the coins before I start.