no coa for this iverson game worn shoe on ebay? fake or real?

nikobe

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1857795018

This shoe don't have a coa, but since all shoes with no coa are fake are these fake? I wouldn't know how else to get his rahsaan shoe, because they don't sell them in stores and never will.

baljitgill

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1857795018

T1Mac

looks real to me...

nikobe

not only do they look real, but theres no way to get those shoes unless you knew someone who knew iverson or you were the makers of the shoes who knew someone who made the shoes. Either way the shoe comes with no coa, but how can you get a c.o.a for something like that? I've seen players like shaq and kobe autograph the game worn shoes they just wore and toss each shoe to someone diffrent in the crowd. So how do you get a c.o.a for this iverson shoe? Obviously the shoe is real, but how much is it worth with no c.o.a?

SkiVermont3

are you done making an ass outta yourself?

Undertaker

exactly WHERE does he make an ass out of himself?

everything he said in this thread is right..

nikobe

That kid skivermont attacks me on everything I post, because I made fun of him and his lowrider bicycle. Exactly how am I making an a$$ outta myself?

Undertaker

(Iverson wears at least 2 new pairs of shoes in each game)

is that true?

nikobe

I don't have a clue on that being true, but probably. I hear jordan use to change shoes after halftime, but i'm sure alot of players do that.

Here's some shaq shoes that have no real c.o.a, but still got a bid of 265$

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1856879640

I'm not sure if those are real, but the iversons have to be.

Undertaker

hm.. I know I wouldn't pay $260 for that Shaq shoe.. the graph looks real but 'practice worn'? sounds fishy..

and boy those stars are spoiled.. 2 pairs of shoes in each game? like that's necessary..

cpandeaz3

looks real too me...but thats just my two cents

nikobe

the iversons or the shaqs? Both autos look real to me, but I'd rather take the iversons, because of that rahsaan just makes it legit.

lilsun1

Ok here's my experience with getting Game Worn shoes. At the summerleauges most players after their last game of the week (unless they are under shoe contract, then they give them away more) will give their shoes away. Don't see how this would be different for pro's... ask them at the team hotel before the game and then go wait outside the back door of the arena (if allowed) to get the after... I can see these as being real shoes. As for PRACTICE worn, if the teams hold an open practice it is VERY likely that the shoes are real...

Jeff

Freakasaurus

Real or not, without a COA they hold little to no resale value. If you're an Iverson fan who doesn't mind the chance that they're buying frauds, have fun, if you're looking to profit on them don't waste your time.

nikobe

freak you know nothing. Those shoes were made for only iverson idiot. How the heck can you get a c.o.a for that? The rashaan stitching on the back and the sample on the tounge should be a good enough of a c.o.a as anything. Nobody can can buy those shoes at the local footlocker NOBODY. Ok freak since nothing without a c.o.a won't sell much, then why have I seen a high school michael jordan yearbook signed go for $5,000+? There was no c.o.a, because you just can't get c.o.a's for certain type of items.



here's a pistol pete maravich autograph poster WITH NO C.O.A, because nobody had freaking c.o.a's back in the day and this POSTER still sold for $500.00+

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1860699597

I've also seen a pete maravich letter from his home address in maravich's handwriting ....again with no c.o.a sell for $600.00

Freakasaurus

I never said the shoes were likely frauds, just the autos. If you want to spend your money on sucker buys like that, go nuts. As for the Jordan yearbook, well PT Barnum said it best about people like that.

If the memoribilia makes you happy, go nuts. I wouldn't touch it.

nikobe

yeah I guess you rather have game used floor cards that companys make everyday right? Or better yet maybe you want the 100 diffrent version vince carter auto's that fleer puts out? You people will soon realize how big of a mistake your making buying these new cards. Why would you want something that anybody can get everyday on ebay? freak- some are collectors, but your an investor like alot of these kids who think there going to become rich someday off a game used triple jersey # to 6. I dislike investors.


p.s if the shoes aint frauds then how is the auto a fraud? Obviously the shoes went to iverson......since they were made for him like the american flag adidas were made for kobe. If they were just regular iverson reeboks autographed then I wouldn't even argue with you.

Vincecarder

Those shoes are basically real. They would be very difficult to fake. As for the auto, it appears to be accurate. The best thing to do is ask the seller for a gurantee on it. Send the shoes into PSA/DNA and they will certify the autograph for you. Once that's all done and the shoes pass, try listing the item again, probably go well over the $1000 mark.

There's always a gamble in collecting (getting card lost in mail, seller takes your money and runs) but sometimes the risk is worth it. If your an Iverson collector (and there are tons of them) you can probably find another Iverson nut and sell these shoes at a big profit. I would definatly roll the dice on a item like this (I sold Carter game used rookie shoes for $1800 with no COA)

nikobe

vince carder-

I'm not a big iverson nut, but I did buy them today from the seller, because it would be really hard to get the shoes like you said and then to be able to forge his auto as good as it is would be worth the 370$ I spent on them. They can't authenticate they were game worn can they vince? Just the auto right? Either way I think the psa/dna sticker would help on it.

nikobe

I seen some rookie game used vince carter shorts on ebay last night for 565? I wanted them, but the seller doesn't accept paypal. Do you have vc's rookie jersey by any chance?

Freakasaurus

Hey nikobe, since we all know you're BBallGURU, ebok, etc., keep trying to make us all belive you have the money for any of this crap LOL

Loser. Hopefully you'll get booted again soon.

nikobe

Ok now I don't have money for any of this crap? Go email the seller and asked who paid him today. Ask him if robert rosillo paid him idiot. actually go to fedex.com and punch in tracking # 832943922622 you will see the shoes are coming from his town to los angeles via fed ex overnight.

Why would I need to lie about what i've bought or what i'm buying? freak quit trying so hard.

Freakasaurus

LMAO you bought those? You're a bigger sucker than when you were all those other idiot names LMAO

By the way, you get that Kobe auto I sent you yet? LOL

nikobe

hey if you got the money then who cares? I actually got a steal on a jordan autograph so 370$ is like free money. Maybe I should of bought your baron davis autograph instead right? uwftke26 the guy who don't know how to keep his word. Keep collecting trashy cards sucka.You act like that 1 kobe auto you owe me is going to kill me. It doesn't bother me son.

Freakasaurus

Ohh yeah, forgot ll about that Baron Davis auto...that I never had. care to show me the post where I ever offere that card?

nikobe

uwftke26-

You got nothing.

Freakasaurus

Snappy comeback.

T1Mac

yea i agree! just because it has no COA dont mean its fake! its like my tmac bands, there not fake! but i got no COA? lol coa's are a joke anyone can print them up...

nikobe

t1mac-

he just has to have a coa with his baron davis game used floor cards or there not worth money. It's all about money with investors like him. The diffrence is we are fans who could careless what bv is and he is a person so caught up in the only coa "so-called worth money" for my turnaround time or he won't buy it.

Some items just can't get a c.o.a PERIOD.

Freakasaurus

The difference is not being a sucker, and blindly throwing your money at things because they look real. Save your money, buy a certified item, that will hold it's value AND you'll have the satisfaction of knowing they're real.

ScoutDawg

hey freak WHY do you care so much about what this man spends his money on? If it makes him happy
then good for him,also are you gonna look stupid when it comes from psa/dna authentic?
The way I see it who cares what someone else spends their money on as long as you arent involved
in the buying,selling,or trading process then let him do what he wants!
my 2 cents as well

nikobe

haha freak......You obviously don't know how hard it would be just to get that shoe in the first place. Then you would have to be able to forge iversons signature near perfect and then have the courage to put it up on ebay without feeling guilty. Like I said ........I could careless what I bought them for, because I got a steal on another item so it's like getting the iversons for free. I have another item i'm sending to psa/dna and when they come back you will be the first one to know. I have no doubt in my mind they are real, everyone i've talked too say there real and everyone on this board thinks there real except you. Why is that?

Freakasaurus

also are you gonna look stupid when it comes from psa/dna authentic?

NO, because I never said it was fake, I just said it's a sucker buy.

Nikobe, there's a sucker born every minute. You honestly think people won't scam people on ebay because they'll feel guilty? Man you are naive.

Freakasaurus

I'm not saying I hope they're not real, I don't want to see people get ripped off...if those items are fakes, the more they sell on ebay, the more will show up on ebay. If they're real, let me know...I will be happy to apologize. My goal in posting here is to see people not get taken.

nikobe

believe me.......go look just for the shoe on ebay. Matter of fact just go look for the shoe with no autograph in any store across the united states. I'm not saying theres not tons of people on ebay who sell fake autographs, but the items that are fake are stuff like photos and stuff you can buy anywhere anytime. I would never of bought the shoe if it was just a regular iverson shoe, because theres no way I would take a risk like that.

Freakasaurus

I would be very worried that unscrupolus people at ebay could slip authentic looking Iversons out the back door, knowing people will asume they're real. People will go to great lengths to make a buck

T1Mac

to support freak for a moment people do go through extreme lengths to make a fake item look real... i seen a fake tmac arm band on ebay that said "T-Mac # 1" but his band only says T1Mac
i even seen the same guy have different colors!
he sells fake iverson wristbands to! the ones reebok sells, cuz it has the i3 on the back... and im guessing he forges a signature on it and he gets about 30 bucks a piece for each one... for maybe an 8 dollar wristband...

nikobe

we are talking about a shoe here not a wristband. How do you fake the stiching on the back? How do you fake the sample on the tounge? Like I said go find the shoe with one that says "rahsaan" on the back and "sample" on the tounge. Trying to find this shoe is like trying to find kobe's american flag adidas he wore for sept 11th. Can you seriously find those shoes? Iverson for a fact had some shoes done for him to wear with rahsaan on the back. Now tell me how your going to get the shoe that was meant for iverson without knowing somebody who knows iverson? If you look at alot of game worn stuff......alot of items have the players name stitched somewhere and they are samples.

T1Mac

i wondered how u could fake the stitching on the wrisbtand but i seen it , lol its not even close but it was a nice try.. .lol

nikobe

faking a wristband would be much easier to fake a shoe. Like I said.....only the shoe company can put sample on the tounge while I could just ask your mom to stich tmac on my underwear.

T1Mac

True but mine are proffessional looking, the ones on ebay where not