Grade or Re-Grade Opinion on Morgan

CalGold

Opinions please.

1. Would this regrade up to 64?

2. If your answer to the first question is yes, is there insufficent cameo contrast to be worth a price between 63 and 64?

nwcs

No, the gouge on the face keeps it from 64.

Edited to say it is still a beautiful coin!

kryptonitecomics

I was actually thinking it could go a 64. I know the mark on the cheek is very obvious, but I still think it has an outside shot. I am no expert though and some of the more experienced collectors will chime in like nwcs has already done. Good Luck!!!!

boiler78

I think it has a better than 50/50 chance.

FC57Coins

I think it's very competent for a 64 - and especially at a cameo DMPL - go for it.

Frank

DennisH

Looks like a 64 all day to me.

The difference in DMPL value between 63 and 64 is less than $100, so I'd send it in under Economy Regrade service in the holder ($15). The downside there is, if it stays a 63 it will be in a new holder.

Good luck!

-- Dennis

Placid

looks like it is correctly graded to me.

nwcs

I believe for a DMPL there is more forgiveness for problem in the field, but not in the devices. I think when you factor the cheek gouge, the three scratches in the primary focal area, and the few other marks I think it is a premium 63.

Gilbert

Quite possibly a 64; particularly if the scan is an accurate representation. I don't know about you, but my scanner seems to represent most of my coins in the best possible light. I can't scan a proof without a rainbow reflection either.

stman

I've seen these in 64 dmpl that didn't look as good as this one. Keep in mind on these dmpl morgans the marks will stick out like a sore thumb. I don't know for sure if this will upgrade. And if you keep it in this holder for upgrade chances get even slimmer.

stman

Macqui

Calgold-

I have submited several DMPL's in the original holders and had very nice upgrades as a result. Grading was generally tougher back then. I also have an 1883 MS63 DMPL and a MS63PL in old holders that I will submit at the upcoming Long Beach Show (not as nice as yours). I think yours is very nice, full cheek and pretty clean. I think you have a good shot at an upgrade. Good Luck.

Macqui

GC's DMPL Set

prooflike

I think the accumalation of all the little stuff(the big cheek hit, all the little cheek hits, and the field marks) may keep it at 63. If any of the previous was a little less or not at all, it would 64.

jom

Since the price difference is small I wouldn't bother since you have the coin in an old holder. This can be a good thing.

Another thing, if you are NOT going to sell it don't bother with slabbing, even if it was raw. Why waste the money?

jom

CalGold

Thank you all for your insights.

CG

Dog97

I think it's properly graded because of the tick on the cheeck, the reed mark under the chin and the long row of reed marks by the forehead. PCGS was easier with the PL & DMPL designation back then and it probably wouldn't retain the DMPL designation unless it has bull prooflike qualities. Since it's not as ticky as most 63s it could easily regrade 64 Prooflike. The fields look cloudy and I think PCGS would hit it hard for that.