It's 4 Reals 1884-CC (Somethings Fishy?)
Blackhawk
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It may be a coincidence, but I think that there's more to the It's4Real saga than meets the eye.
About two weeks ago, I bought a 1885-CC GSA Morgan on an Ebay buy-it-now for $150.00. I paid via Ebay payments with a credit card. Later when I logged back on the computer, my payment was refunded. I attempted to contact the seller via E-mail, then called and asked what the problem was. The seller then told me that he would not sell the coin for what he listed it for and was going to relist. I told him that if he listed the coin for that price, I believed that he was obligated to sell it. The seller then told me that he had a bunch of GSA dollars and asked me about the difference between the 1880 reverses. I thought that this was rather weird, and am currently looking into legal action against the seller. By the way, he did put the coin for auction again and sold it to another. This sellers name on Ebay is"mrmoskowitz"...check out his past auctions and you'll see that a 1885-CC (he includes serial #'s in his auctions) was sold twice.
Here's the strange part...If you check out "mrmoskowitz" feedback, he sold a 1884-CC to a buyer named "coins-and-cards", who says in his feedback that the coin is a MS-67. It just so happens that coins-and-cards is also right now listinf a 1885 dollar that has the same pictures as the ones listed in the auction that It's4real had listed under a different name.
Now in his first forum posts, It's4real signed as Mike. I know from contacting Ebay that mrmoskowitz first name is Mike. "mrmoskowitz" lived in Florida, even though in the auction he lists that he's from Texas. Coins-and-cards lists his address as Atlanta in the auctions, but if you look at the "me" section in his Ebay name, he's hawking a Florida condo..
Now...it may be all coincidence, but if it is it's sure strange. If anyone bid on an auction by Its4real, go on the Ebay auction page and find out his real name, address, and phone number...I wanna know if it's the same weasel that wouldn't sell the 1885-cc dollar to me.
Bill
-Blackhawk
Link to auction
About two weeks ago, I bought a 1885-CC GSA Morgan on an Ebay buy-it-now for $150.00. I paid via Ebay payments with a credit card. Later when I logged back on the computer, my payment was refunded. I attempted to contact the seller via E-mail, then called and asked what the problem was. The seller then told me that he would not sell the coin for what he listed it for and was going to relist. I told him that if he listed the coin for that price, I believed that he was obligated to sell it. The seller then told me that he had a bunch of GSA dollars and asked me about the difference between the 1880 reverses. I thought that this was rather weird, and am currently looking into legal action against the seller. By the way, he did put the coin for auction again and sold it to another. This sellers name on Ebay is"mrmoskowitz"...check out his past auctions and you'll see that a 1885-CC (he includes serial #'s in his auctions) was sold twice.
Here's the strange part...If you check out "mrmoskowitz" feedback, he sold a 1884-CC to a buyer named "coins-and-cards", who says in his feedback that the coin is a MS-67. It just so happens that coins-and-cards is also right now listinf a 1885 dollar that has the same pictures as the ones listed in the auction that It's4real had listed under a different name.
Now in his first forum posts, It's4real signed as Mike. I know from contacting Ebay that mrmoskowitz first name is Mike. "mrmoskowitz" lived in Florida, even though in the auction he lists that he's from Texas. Coins-and-cards lists his address as Atlanta in the auctions, but if you look at the "me" section in his Ebay name, he's hawking a Florida condo..
Now...it may be all coincidence, but if it is it's sure strange. If anyone bid on an auction by Its4real, go on the Ebay auction page and find out his real name, address, and phone number...I wanna know if it's the same weasel that wouldn't sell the 1885-cc dollar to me.
Bill
-Blackhawk
Link to auction
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Russ, NCNE
Russ, NCNE
a little odd for an ebay feedback. LOL
DCAMFranklin...I can see your point about this being trivial, but it brings up a good point. How will online auctions be policed for breach of contract if bad sellers and buyers are not prosecuted? These auctions are not meant to be sounding boards for the sellers to determine coin values before they actually sell them to someone else. I agree with your "what's the world coming to" comment, but unlike you, I expect people to be honorable, and do my best to do so myself. Throwing money at the problem (a few hundred to get the better slabbed coin), will not prevent someone else from being deceived by sellers such as this.
roadrunner
And bids already placed on item.
HMMMMMMM
edited to add: Good work blackhawk!!!
stman
As for that 'sexual chocolate' stuff....that's just plain weird!
GSAGUY
You can see what it looked like when he bought it for $13.87 in this auction.
New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.
I think that there's more to this whole fiasco than we know of.
Bill
Amazing
In God We Trust.... all others pay in Gold and Silver!
That sexual chocolate thing is kind of weird. I wonder what that is about?
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You guys should REALLY get a life!
LOLOLOL!
I have never, ever, seen so much "detective" work that is pure BS in my whole life! It is absolutely hilarious! They should put this on the "X-files"
I bought the coin, the guy gave me good feedback because I paid him instantly. I paid $90+/- plus shipping. He thought I got the better of him and said so in an e-mail....but was obligated to sell it anyway - at least he THOUGHT he was.....I call that character (something sorely lacking here)...
Anyway - he sold It - to me - and yes - I have a nice condo on the beach in Florida - too bad you don't- the depth of people here amazes me - LOL.
like I said before - SORRY to take all of the mystery out of your little game but it's all very simple and innocent....I know you would like some excietement in your lives but you won't find it here. No mystery - simple purchase.
I changed my E-bay ID and cancelled the auctions due to all of the threats I received from members of this board - YES YOU - to make a bunch of false bids and then not pay - sound familiar? You know who you are...
Hey - MR. Dairy Queen - you think it's funny still? I thought it was a little sick but oh well...
Anyway - you guys have a happy life
Its4Real4me - not 4 you
see? My Auctions "Got any 1800's gold?"
dateless walker dipped in cherry
hmm so.. now that the name is changed.. no one can shill the bids.. VERY shrewd...
back to dipping coins.
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I've been gone ALL day and you guys have nothing better to do except talk about me :-)
Cool :-)
see? My Auctions "Got any 1800's gold?"
see? My Auctions "Got any 1800's gold?"
Do you have one in chocolate?
Out of the closet Morgan lover
Oh! That's right, they got their money.
When you buy on Ebay, you better grease up
Regards Bear
Camelot