OK Tone Lovers - Would Appreciate Your Opinion On This Morgan

FC57Coins

What is your opinion as to the tone quality on this Morgan?

Thanks

Frank

jom

Looks nice. Is it from the Redfield hoard? I bought one like this from GSAguy at the last Long Beach show...different date but the toning is similar.

jom

FC57Coins

Not a Redfield Dollar, at least it's not designated as such. Just wondered what the tone experts think about this type of coin. It's got very irredescent fields which make the blue around the rim seem like neon under the lights, the fields are semi-prooflike, although again, it's not designated as such. - It's an 1882-S bytheway.

Regards,

Frank

littlewicher

It's a nice coin with nice toning.

jom

Frank: I'm NOT an expert in Morgans but what I meant by "Redfield" is that I was told by an expert that this kind of toning is known to be from the Redfield hoard (blue/purple). As far as I know, the services don't designate that anyway. Anyone else know about this?

jom

FC57Coins

I see - I thought I had seen some slabs with the Redfield designation - maybe ANACS? - but I'm not sure either.

Frank

Dog97

Looks like album tone. Kinda pretty. Well struck looks like a 64.

FC57Coins

Hey - Jom mentioned Redfield dollars, and I remembered I had seen something slabbed with the name - here is a sample of it.

Frank

Redfield Dollar

prooflike

Thanks FC57 for putting the image up for the Redfield, I was going to say the 1st dollar didn't look like Redfield toning to me. The only Redfield toning 've seen is the orangish-russet-brown toning. The 1st Morgan looks not AT'ed and looks like it has plenty of luster under the toning, very nice!

jom

Frank: Yes, there were some holders from the Redfield hoard. I meant grading holders...

Anyway, that is a good example of the Redfield look. Talk to "toningintheblood", he knows more about Morgans. Mine had the blue/purple look (like yours) and Dale (toningintheblood) said it was a Redfield dollar.

jom

FC57Coins

Sounds good - thanks - I appreciate the advice.

Regards,

Frank

oldcameoproofsguy

In the PCGS Official Guide to Coin Grading and Counterfeit detection it describes artificial toning in pretty great detail. One thing it mentions is that in AT the colors will not run fully to the devices which is seen around the stars from 4:00 to about 9:00 and under Liberty's chin and under her hair. This is also quite evident around the date. There are some pretty good illustrations of this in the book.

This isn't to say that this isn't a naturally toned coin but seeing the discontinuities around the devices throws up cautionary flags for me.



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lordmarcovan

The toning is a tiny bit dark (or heavy) for my taste, but the colors are pretty. If the toning were a little lighter, and didn't subdue the luster quite so much, I would probably like it. I've definitely seen uglier toned Morgans. And I realize the luster probably looks a little better in person. I'm not a toned Morgan fan, as you might have guessed- I go more for the white DMPL look. However, I'd say the eye appeal of that ain't bad, IMHO.