Definition of modern coins

BBN

Just curious what it is. Is it post WWII or is it clad? Thanks.

BBN

n-e 1?

presleyh

to qualify for the 10.00 modern grading fee at pcgs it is 1970 and newer according to the invoice they sent me.

BBN

Mr. Presley,

Thank you, thank you very much!

jakemrjr

On the website, under submission center and Fees and services,,, it says the moderns are 1965 to present.... are they just changing ???

link to modern service

Placid

There was a post about a month ago saying PCGS was changing the modern service to 1965 or newer.
Guess they use old forms.

presleyh

the 65 or newer is nice--it will include all but 1 kennedy. i guess it gets all clad coinage though. i just received these invoices this week so i guess they havnt changed them to reflect the new modern definition.

braddick

I just sent off a batch to NGC and was pleased to see that NGC has lowered their Modern fees to $11.00 and the cutoff is now 1955.
To be honest, that's a great savings and NGC also allows you to type in all the info over the net and print up your invoice after sending it to them electronically.

NGC is doing many things right as of late and is winning me and others over with their outward approach to problem solving.

Conder101

I consider anything after 1836 to be modern.

RGL

Conder: Instead of a PM, we want to know ... how are you feeling and how goes the book? Hope it is looking up on both fronts.

And by my personal definition for a host of reasons, moderns are 1950 to present. (Sorry, Conder!)

airplanenut

Anything that people how say, "I hate moderns!" won't collect

Catch22

I consider moderns to be coin designs currently in circulation and dated according to series inception. Jeffersons, Lincolns, Roosevelts, Washingtons and coins minted between, that are no longer continued...like Ikes, Franklins etc. etc. The end of the Walking Liberty Half as far as I'm concerned.

keets

i define modern according to design. when obverses changed to historical figures instead of a representation of liberty is when the change occurred for me. i accept that the services need a cuttoff for convenience, though. somewhere between 1950 and 1970 seems appropriate.

al h.

michael

when i was a kid collecting coins the general conscienses was that anything 1950 and after was modern and i still go by that opinion

i still think 1950 and after begins the modern era for coins and especially so proof coins

hookooekoo

Coins seem to break down into the follow catagories in my mind:

=== Classics ===
The coins your grand-parents had as pocket change (and what everyone seems to be collecting).
Indian Head Cent
Buffalo Nickel
Mercury Dime
Standing Liberty Quarter
Walker Half
Morgan Dollar

=== Moderns ===
The only coins GenX has ever seen in circulation.
Jefferson Nickel
Roosevelt Dime
Washington Quarter
Kennedy Half
Ike, SBA, Golden Dollar

=== Tweens ===
Coins the don't fit the classics, but are never seen in circulation either.
Franklin Half
Peace Dollar

=== Silvers ===
Coins that look modern but worth more.
War Nickels
Silver Roosevelt Dimes
Silver Washington Quarters
Silver Kennedy Halfs

=== Lincoln Cents ===
Lincoln Cents are in a class by them selves. They are as old as many of the classics but still made today.

=== Gold ===
Coins I ignore because they will make my type-set too expensive.
???

=== Really Old Stuff ===
Anything minted before the classics.

jtryka

hookooekoo,

As a member of GenX, I must inform you that I have found everything you list under silver in circulation, as well as Frankins (the last six about two months ago). Let me help you out on gold:

Classics:
Any gold coin that circulated at face value (that's a broad definition, we could get into all the subsets, but no one would really be paying attention.

Modern:
Those horrible B&stardizations of Augustus Saint-Gaudens' lovely designs that the mint currently produces. And what's with that reverse anyway? Steal the obverse, but instead of using the beautiful eagle, they use a glorified engraving of a freaking national geographic photo for heaven's sake? What's that all about???

construct

<< <i>And what's with that reverse anyway? Steal the obverse, but instead of using the beautiful eagle, they use a glorified engraving of a freaking national geographic photo for heaven's sake? What's that all about??? >>



I think the "family of eagles" reverse was a nod to the "family values" crowd. Anyway, it is a truly dreadful design. It's certainly worse than any circulation coin design in the history of American coinage. (Not knowing commems, there might be something worse there, but I hope not.)

goyankeez

Yesterday's moderns are today's classics; today's moderns are tomorrow's classics.

Does that make sense. I hope I got that right. Hate to sound like a fool.

dorkkarl

i thought "moderns" was loosely defined as any coin currently found in circulation. which i guess would excluded sacagaweenies.

K S

JD

Moderns, no real reason, Lincolns post-59, Jefferson post 62 (don't ask why, that date just sticks in my head), dimes/quarters/halves post 64. Otherwise I'd say all coins post-69, what a great year...

cladking

We'll never get agreement on the definitions of modern but I propose the following:

Classic Modern 1934-1964
Modern 1965-1999
Ultra Modern 1999 and later.

Each of these dates represent a major turning point in mint and collector activity.

shirohniichan

Historians would probably agree with Conder101-- modern coins are those struck on a steam press or other automated press.

Antiques used to be 100 or more years old, but for the past 20 years or so they've been calling anything 50 years or more "antique." Pretty soon anything over 5 years old will be antique.

The same sort of "classic inflation" seems to be going on in the coin world. Maybe anything no longer in bulk quantities of unc rolls in local banks will be called "classic" before long.

Conder101

<< <i>Pretty soon anything over 5 years old will be antique. >>



Well this is the computer age and a five year old computer IS an antique! As my four year old 100 Mhz Pentium with a 1 Gig hard drive will attest to.


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ARCO

For me moderns are the coins that are face value in circulated condition.

Tyler