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Canadian $1, pl or bus. strike?

This coin is from a 1960's whitman plastic holder and seems to be scuffed up a bit on both obv. and rev.
Much more than the typical 1965 pl coins in mint cellophane (or whatever) packaging.
It does have a good bit of cameo surfaces on the obv. so I'm thinking pl.
Its either a lousy pl or a very nice unc. piece.
So now to the question.
Were bus. strikes produced with these cameo surfaces?
Opinions and comments appreciated.
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    PokermandudePokermandude Posts: 2,710 ✭✭✭
    Business strike. Cameos are pretty common on the 1965 dollars.
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    Thanks Dude
    What do you think it might grade?
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    PokermandudePokermandude Posts: 2,710 ✭✭✭
    Probably 62, maybe 63 on a good day.
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    Interesting, Thanks
    So now this brings up yet another question or questions.
    The half, quarter and dime also have the cameo surfaces.
    Could one assume that these are bus. strikes also?
    They look to be about the same condition as the dollar.
    Thanks again.
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    1960NYGiants1960NYGiants Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭✭
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    The Royal Canadian Mint prepares their dies differently than the US Mint. The major difference is the RCM chrome plates the dies the polishes the dies used to make the PL coins. Dies for the regular MS coins are not specially polished. In some cases the PL dies are transferred to regular MS production when the special polishing wears out or the PL run is completed.

    One trick I use to determine a cameo MS coin from a PL coin is to examine the coin at an oblique angle. On an MS coin you should be able to see the flow lines radiating out from the center. On the PL coins there will be an appearance of a glassy layer on the surface such that is is very difficult to see the flow lines. As a PL coin tones this trick doesn't work as well.

    Another characteristic of PL issues is they were struck at a higher pressure which forced metal to fill the edges around the rim making the PL rims look square and sharp very similar to how a proof coin's edge would look. The best thing to do is to make a side by side comparison.
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    STLNATSSTLNATS Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Skip,

    The Royal Canadian Mint prepares their dies differently than the US Mint. The major difference is the RCM chrome plates the dies the polishes the dies used to make the PL coins. Dies for the regular MS coins are not specially polished. In some cases the PL dies are transferred to regular MS production when the special polishing wears out or the PL run is completed.

    One trick I use to determine a cameo MS coin from a PL coin is to examine the coin at an oblique angle. On an MS coin you should be able to see the flow lines radiating out from the center. On the PL coins there will be an appearance of a glassy layer on the surface such that is is very difficult to see the flow lines. As a PL coin tones this trick doesn't work as well.

    Another characteristic of PL issues is they were struck at a higher pressure which forced metal to fill the edges around the rim making the PL rims look square and sharp very similar to how a proof coin's edge would look. The best thing to do is to make a side by side comparison. >>



    Great explanation. Thx
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