Can anyone identify this St. George Medal?

airplanenut · March 13, 2011 3:55AM

I can't at all figure out what this piece is... any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Jeremy

lordmarcovan · March 13, 2011 4:27AM

If I can recall correctly, that is a jeton that was struck over a considerable span of years, I think maybe from 1600 on up into the early 18th century or so. I've seen these discussed here before, but the proper keywords and links to help you with the specifics elude me for the moment. Sniff around a bit and you might find a thread or two on them.

lordmarcovan · March 13, 2011 4:43AM

I tried, but couldn't find the thread(s) on these. They're out there somewhere, I swear. Somebody like FilthyBroke or theboz11 or farthing or somebody like that is gonna have your answer. All I found while searching was some droolworthy eyecandy that Filthybroke had posted last fall when I was away, but no St. George jeton/medal.

FilthyBroke · March 13, 2011 5:09AM

I've seen that one before on VCoins, but I couldn't find the listing. It's a jeton, St. George and the Dragon, but I couldn't tell you much more than that. There are several similar examples on Ebay.be, and I suspect it may be Belgian.

Added - See below, STLNATS has this one pegged. I remember seeing it listed as a jeton, but the seller could have just listed it wrong.

STLNATS · March 13, 2011 6:22AM

These are from Kremnitz in Hungary and attributed 1600-1800. They were struck in a variety of sizes in both gold and silver. The obverse is St George, patron of Justice. The reverse design is Christ in a boat during a storm with the legend of something like: safety in times of storm. If I recall correctly, these were also used as good luck pieces by soldiers and are often mounted.

I have a gold ducat that was nicely mounted, and two silvers, one about thaler size (which may actually be silvered base metal) and the other about the size of a quarter. These seem to have been struck in some quantity, especially in silver, and there's a wide variety in the quality of die cutting, some are quite nice and others not so well executed.

They were discussed some time ago, but I couldn't find the link.

STLNATS · March 13, 2011 6:42AM

PS, the golds are in my old (1980!) Friedberg book under Hungary - Kremnitz. A restrike of the thaler is in Bruces' Unusual World Coins (3rd edition, geez I gotta update my library!) with the notation that "this particular design was struck as a religious medal in various sizes for many years."

cacheman · March 13, 2011 8:26AM

Goetz borrowed heavily from this obverse design to create a 1912 sports award. Yes, I know it doesn't help with the initial question but I find it interesting nonetheless.

Goetz St. George

harasha · March 13, 2011 10:55AM

From my collection:

airplanenut · March 13, 2011 11:38AM

Thanks for the help, everyone!

Can anyone identify this St. George Medal?

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