This ebay seller thinks WW2 was fought 105 years ago

IloiloKano · February 8, 2010 1:09PM

Here's his description of a 1905 US-Philippines Centavo...

"Here is a 1905, copper One Centavo coin, struck at the Philadelphia (U.S.A.) mint for the Philippine Islands in World War Two. Check out the condition of this 105 year old coin!"

And it's even worse when he says in his listing, "I am a Life Member of the ANA #1087, TAMS #38, CWTS #5, NJES #32, GSNA #32, OCCC #51".

spoon · February 8, 2010 1:28PM

Yeah that's bad.

I once worked with someone who retired as an E-7 after 21 years, did two tours in Korea.... and thought the Korean War happened in the 60s...

Edit - And I've been surprised to discover people on more than one occasion who never realized there was a WWI, though they know all about that war with D-Day, Hitler and the A-bomb called World War TWO.

wybrit · February 8, 2010 2:09PM

Both posts:

There was a Russo-Japanese war in 1905, but it wasn't anywhere near the Philippines, more in the Yellow Sea/Manchuria/Korean peninsula areas.

ProofArtworkonCircs · February 8, 2010 2:30PM

<<There was a Russo-Japanese war in 1905, but it wasn't anywhere near the Philippines, more in the Yellow Sea/Manchuria/Korean peninsula areas. >>

Then there was the incident in the North Sea where the Russian fleet in transit shot up the British fishing fleet because they thought they were Japanese. From the net:

<<The Russian Baltic Fleet, having spent the whole summer fitting out, sailed from Liepaja on Oct. 15, 1904. Off the Dogger Bank (in the North Sea) on October 21, several Russian ships opened fire on British trawlers in the mistaken belief that they were Japanese torpedo boats, and this incident aroused such anger in England that war was only avoided by the immediate apology and promise of full compensation made by the Russian government.>>

ormandh · February 8, 2010 10:57PM

I know this is way off topic, but I was reading this post last night and I saw this this morning. World War I ship camouflage.

And here is some more info on Dazzle.

ProofArtworkonCircs · February 8, 2010 11:10PM

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Very interesting references. I have heard this story before but that article said the technique was worthless other than as a morale booster. Apparently it did work in WW I and to a lesser degree in WW II.

CIVITAS · February 9, 2010 1:51AM

<< I know this is way off topic, but I was reading this post last night and I saw this this morning. World War I ship camouflage.

And here is some more info on Dazzle. >>

A.T.

SaorAlba · February 9, 2010 9:38AM

Just for the record, indeed there was a war going on in the Philippines in 1905, in fact it was rather like the Iraq and Afghanistan of it's day. The war was fought off and on from the cessation of hostilities betwixt the USA and Spain in 1898 - Philippine nationalists under Emilio Aguinaldo, and then later other leaders fought a guerrilla campaign against the US army until the former were largely wiped out, bought off, or pacified by 1913. US casualties in the conflict were a bit over 4000, whilst Philippine deaths were somewhere betwixt 12000-20000. It is an unfortunate fact that has largely been whitewashed later on.

BigAlan · February 10, 2010 3:35AM

In 1900 a USA leutenant testified before th US Senate about water-boarding of rebels in the Philippines.

JamesMurray · February 10, 2010 3:40AM

<< I know this is way off topic, but I was reading this post last night and I saw this this morning. World War I ship camouflage.

And here is some more info on Dazzle. >>

Apologies also for straying off topic , but on the above subject , i went to the Army/Navy store to get a pair of those camouflage trousers .... i couldnt find any

coinpictures · February 10, 2010 7:32AM

"Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"

satootoko · February 10, 2010 7:47AM

Sometimes there is a very simple explanation, so be tolerant:

Ask Seller a Questions:

<< Aren't you aware that World War II came AFTER World War I, which occurred from mid-1914 through late 1919? Calling this item a WW II coin makes you look pretty ignorant. >>

Seller's response:

<< Thanks for the nudge! Yes, I know my history well, but I copied and pasted some of that information from the last item I listed. Sometimes I'm not fully awake at 2 AM when I list this stuff, ha, ha. Thanks for waking me up. I will correct now. Yep, I was around in WWII too. >>

laserart · February 14, 2010 1:53AM

Obama still thinks there are 57 states, he has 7 more to visit. (his own words)

krueger · February 16, 2010 5:23AM

I had a young boy, maybe 10 yo tell me the other day that WWII was from 1990 to 1991.
I gently corrected him.

When I was his age I won a Kawanis gold medal for my knowledge about the U. S. Civil War.
I was reading any civil war book I could get my hands on. I also was a hard core coin collector by then.

The other day a TV interviewer on the street asked a young college girl how many stars are on that American flag flying over there?
She said , "the flag was waving too much for her to count them".

Are we in trouble?

Krueger

WillieBoyd2 · February 16, 2010 9:10AM

Sorry but the "57" reference is from a 1950's book and movie called "The Manchurian Candidate".

A right-wing senator can't remember how many "Communists" are in the government,
looks over at a Heinz 57 catsup bottle, and announces "57".

lordmarcovan · February 16, 2010 10:10AM

Snopes re. the "57 states" thing.

Sylvestius · February 17, 2010 3:16AM

<< I know this is way off topic, but I was reading this post last night and I saw this this morning. World War I ship camouflage.

And here is some more info on Dazzle. >>

OT I know but when I saw your link I was wondering if this liner would make an appearance;

This is RMS Olympic (the sister ship of the ill fated Titanic). Had a very successful career and even managed to sink a German U-Boat by driving into it.

Walmann · February 17, 2010 4:10AM

The seller seems to be mixing up information, I don't believe the US was farsighted enough in 1905 to predict the events of the 40's which the US would become involved.

As regards to the comments made on the campagin trail here is the actual clip from Reuters, no editing involved.

57 states visited one to go

SaorAlba · February 17, 2010 7:07AM

No, the people in 1905 didn't realise the USA would be repeating the same mistakes from then all over again a hundred years later. Waterboarding, nation building, "we're winning the war" the slogans are pretty much the same now - only the places have changed.

IloiloKano · February 17, 2010 10:11AM

Would it be okay if we all left off with the politics and let this thread die?

WillieBoyd2 · February 17, 2010 12:17PM

We need 57 posts.

This ebay seller thinks WW2 was fought 105 years ago

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