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Thread Title: The National plus the Collector's Summit Meeting & PSA Registry Luncheon
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dude
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I just returned from the National Sports Collectors Convention in Atlantic City, New Jersey. There's a lot to share about the Convention, the PSA Registry Luncheon, Superior's Auction and some hobby news.

But first, the tradition continued as the Registry Collectors held their Second Annual Summit Meeting on Thursday night. As many of you will recall, last year we met at Gibson's in Chicago for the First Annual Summit Meeting of Registry Members. This year the Second Annual Meeting was held over dinner at Sabatini's in Atlantic City.

Here's the group photo of all who attended.



Standing (l to r): Buckwheat, RayBShotz, Mitochondria, Wayne8348, RonRitt, Acowa, SJJS28, Dude
Sitting (l to r): Gaspipe26, KingKellogg, EJGuru


This event was every bit as sensational as the dinner last year. It lasted over 2-1/2 hours, and everyone had some great "war stories" to share about the hobby and there were tons of big laughs! Before I go into any details, I'll let the other attendees share their stories.


The second major bit of news was the PSA sponsored Registry Luncheon on Friday. It was a first class set up all the way with an excellent sit down dinner with an open bar. Once again, the Registry Community is for ever in debt for the efforts of PSA and especially BJ Searls and her associates for making the Registry what it is today.


BJ Searls

The luncheon was an open mixer for the first half hour and then while the Registry Members had lunch, PSA President Joe Orlando gave the State of the Registry Address. Joe was also gracious enough to answer a lot of questions regarding grading, the future of PSA, and shared some personal interest stories. Joe re-affirmed that PSA has no plans for using the half point scale and also mentioned that PSA is planning to release a video showing the step-by-step grading process. Once again, I'd like to see messages by other members who attended the luncheon regarding their thoughts about the event.


Joe Orlando answering some tough questions
at the Registry Luncheon


In addition to Joe's talk, the Registry Members heard the CEO of Collectors Universe, Michael Haynes, give a speech regarding the future outlook of Collectors Universe. Mr. Haynes assured the attendees that CU will continue their aggressive approach and leadership in the collectibles industry. From my personal viewpoint, I was quite impressed with his "hands on" leadership. Mr. Haynes was the auctioneer at the live Superior Auction and was also at the PSA booth a great bit of the time during the Convention answering questions and assisting the customers. He's a very approachable and personable gentleman.


CU CEO Michael Haynes speaking at
the Registry Luncheon



After the dinner broke up, I did get a chance to meet quite a few of the Message Board regulars. Here are some photos:


mikeschmidt



thegemmintman



tipem


playball



wolfbear



scoop



aconte



1954



Neil Downey & his son Eric


Perhaps the highlight of the event was the grand entrance of none other than KingKellogg:


KingKellogg


Also, one other surprise guest was theBobs. Come on back on the Board! Let's hear from you again!


theBobs


I also attended Superior's Live Auction on Thursday night. Collectors could bid on-line, by phone, via fax or live in person. It seemed like all four methods of bidding were actively in use while I was there. It will be interesting to see if Superior continues to use this format at future Nationals.


As for the Convention, from my personal perspective as a collector, it was OK but not great. It's clear that high-end vintage raw cards are very tough to find at the shows anymore. I did pickup some nice graded cards, but I was hoping to find a lot more graded items for sale too. I'll give more details later on in the thread. As for Atlantic City, in my opinion, it's a place that's seen better days in the distant past, and hopefully it will turnaround into the resort town it once was, but other than the casinos and the convention center, it really leaves a lot to be desired.

I'll post more on the events, dealers and hobby news later. I'd like to give other members some opportunity to share their experiences at Atlantic City.





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Edited: Saturday July 26, 2003 at 3:07 PM by dude

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Saturday July 26, 2003 3:13 PM

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Did King Kellogg address his subjects? I want the King to make a State of Kellogg's address.

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Saturday July 26, 2003 3:19 PM

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Great thread. Thanks for the report. Too bad I couldn't attend this year. I'm glad to see Ron Sanders decided to go. It looks like the '69 Topps club was well represented.

I'll look forward to reading more about the show, luncheon and PSA's speeches.

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Although not yet a KELLOGG KONVERT, the KING did stump President Joe Orlando with his request to have the option to change the free grades into free beers. With leadership like that, and after spending some quality time with another Kellogg Kollecting monster, I may just have been convinced to have dual citizenship in the TOPPS and KELLOGG worlds. Any King that seeks free beer is a man I can admire!

As for the show, I was impressed with the number of dealers. Compared to Ft. Washington, I'd say 2-2.5X larger. Agree that vintage raw cards in NM-MT are very hard to find. Bought and broke a '67 Series I cello pack right at the PSA tables. Submitted a pair for 2 hour grading and nailed 1 (Yankees RC). Still working on the other card. Unfortunately, as many of you saw, the Robinson's card was decently centered but badly miscut. The Maris should 8--I just measured it!

Picked up some already graded cards to fit in my set for reasonable prices--PSA 8 commons. Also won a T-206 Mathewson PSA 4 at Friday night's session after being outbid 5-6X Thursday night. I too was impressed by Mr. Haynes (CEO/Auctioneer) and Chris Porter. Both were extremely accessible and customer/investor friendly. Perhaps good things are on the way in those areas. Also have to give much credit to Joe for taking the questions, and shooting as straight as it seemed he did. It was great to meet the dealers who don't usually make East Coast shows (BBC Exchange especially--they sold me the cello).

Hope to see everyone again next year (if not sooner!)...

EJ

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Saturday July 26, 2003 4:09 PM

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Dude,

Wow!!! What can I say your the best. Thats what it's all about. Wish I would have
made the trip. Dam weddings oops aren't I supposed to be at the reception.

Anyhow thanks for letting me get a peek at that motley crue. King Kellogg especially
for thats about what I expected. Schmidty and Playball also so many transactions
and not a handshake.

Anyhow you all rule.

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Saturday July 26, 2003 4:11 PM

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DUDE!

OUSTANDING!

Yes I am yelling! Thanks for the updates as always, I will continue to read this thread as I am sure there is much more to follow.

Dave

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Saturday July 26, 2003 4:12 PM

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thats cool to be able to put a name with a face. thanks for the update.

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EJ,

I second the fact on the free beer!!!!!!!! WE WANT BEER


KING for president.


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Saturday July 26, 2003 4:17 PM

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Back from the Nationals! Door to door in my truck from AC to Maine in 9 hours! This event was one of the highlights of my collecting existence! The group assembled at the dinner as well as the others I met at the luncheon and throughout the show are all true class acts.
The tenor of the correspondence that takes place on these boards plays especially well in a forum like the Nationals, the event that brought us all together in AC where we can let it all hang out.
The base of knowledge is incredible and refreshing. I was thrilled to rub elbows with all of you and share in it.

Great to see you 69'ers - Ron Hobbs (extra special thanks for some great cards I needed for my set!), Bob Cacamese ( for spearheading another great Thursday event), Dan Markel (great thread and enjoyed sitting with you at the dinner) and Ron Sanders (thanks for your interest in Janelle and her cards). Nice meeting with and enjoying show moments with Jeff Gobin and my Jersey Friend Frank Bakka.
John C, Dave R. and Dave J. I hope to meet you at some point in the future too.

Thanks for your comradery Eric -EJGuru...see you soon in Vacationland!

Special thanks goes out to my Jersey hitchhiker friends, Neil Downey & son Eric...we mutually anticipated this event for the last year and a half and it exceeded our expectations.

As for the cards, as I mentioned Ron Hobbs did me a solid. He brought all his nice PSA 8 and 9 Topps 69' baseball to the show and I was able to fill some very nice holes in my set. I was able to scoop up a handful of additional raw cards and submitted those as well.

The show was really about the people for me this time. If I missed anyone outside the 69' group it was defintely great to talk with you especially the "Gaspipe Gang" assembled in the top photo. Just captivating.

Last but not least, BJ is da' bomb! Thanks so much for your help over the years and it was a pleasure to swap stories with you. I hope you enjoyed the Eagles and I'll think of you when I watch Austin City Limits the next time.

For any of you that missed this one or have never been to a National, think Cleveland 2004!

RayB69Topps
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I really enjoyed the show this year. Gaspipe26 picked out a great restaurant for the Summit meeting and our contingent filled up the main dining area. I enjoyed finally meeting a lot of new people in person that I have had contact with for quite some time. It was especially nice to finally get to hook up with Rob McBride (Buckwheat) because we have helped each other out on 1961's. I had no idea that he was coming to the show before dinner ... and on the first day I found a dealer with 2 PSA 10 1961 Topps cards. I neglected to get the dealers business card and needless to say...Rob and I were scouring the huge convention center frantically trying to find him. It was also good to renew old friendships with some great guys like Eric Sanders, Dan Markel, Ron Sanders Jr, Ron Ritt, Bob Cacamese, Wayne8348, & Joe Tauriello (Norty).

My other highlights were:

Watching Eric (ejguru) open the 1967 Topps cello pack ... or actually being next to Eric and almost seeing him open the pack. Anyways, that was a highlight because it makes you realize just how special some of these vintage high grade sets are. Out of 12 cards, I think 6 were submittable and only 1 or 2 looked worthy of a 9. It is pretty neat getting a Maris and Brooks & Frank Robby card # 1 all in the same cello pack.

Watching bidders pay more for a 1975 George Brett PSA 10 than a1934 Goudey Dizzy Dean PSA 9 and Gehrig, Cobb, etc PSA 8's. If you had the money...there were some pretty attractive prices on high end pre war superstars. Needless to say, I dont get it. Superior did an excellent job with the auction and it was first class for the people who bid in person.

Meeting so many new people from the boards was great as well. I especially enjoyed getting to hook up with Twinron, Tipem, 1954, Playball, Neil Downey, Steve Saldutti, RayB. and a bunch more.

My biggest diappointment was not getting to meet aconte. I happened upon a guy flipping through some high end Redmans and I stopped and asked him if he was Tony...but I had just missed him.

I was able to pick up a few 1964 TallBoy hockey cards along with some low pop ungraded commons of other baseball sets. My biggest purchase was a group of 1962 Topps Baseball PSA 8's in the Superior auction that I didn't really need but couldn't pass up.


All in all, I enjoyed it as much or more than any National that I have attended.


Regards,



Alan Cowart




Edited: Saturday July 26, 2003 at 4:57 PM by acowa

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Thanks everyone for the updates on the show and the stories. I am counting down the days to the Cleveland national in which I can go to next year. Thanks Dude for the pics, it was nice to put a picture with some names.

And anyone who pushes for free beer is #1 in my book. King Kellogg is the man!


Mike

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Just got back from the show and luncheon in which psa put on for the set registry members. My hat goes off to Joe Orlando what a breath of fresh air and very intelligent person he is. We talked about the hobby and psa as a company and what direction it will be going in years to come. Joe you have great new ideas for the future of PSA . Keep up the good work and thanks again for a fine luncheon.
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Great job Dude!!!!!!! I was hoping for a report equal to last's year's and you outdid yourself. And thanks to all others who are sharing as well.

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Dude


Sooooo Cooooool!!! Thanks for bringing it to the boards. I hope to see all at Clevland.

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I very much enjoyed the Luncheon as well. It was great meeting everyone and, I must comment, the lunch itself was fantastic! (I'm a big fan of the cheesecake dessert )

I was able to meet Eric and Ron Ritt during the show at the PSA table but not many others. Eric made the comment that he wishes that he could be in my position, being young and collecting PSA graded cards and building sets, and I found that rather ironic as I stood next to he and Mr. Ritt, both of whom, Mr. Ritt especially , hold sizeable leads on my '68 set.

I would like to thank the King as well. During the luncheon I was a little shy and stayed to myself but he and Gemintman (cannot recall your "real" name ) pulled me away from my mother and introduced me to most of the gang. If it hadn't been for them, I probably would have kept quiet all night and because of them, I felt rather welcome and as part of the group. I would also like to thank Frank, who came up and introduced himself and his wife to myself and my mother. I thought it was a rather nice gesture and it once again made me feel at home. I was the only one there I believe under 20 with a registered set, so it was a little akward, but Eric, the King, Gemintman, and Frank made me feel at home and like one of the guys, as did Mark and Aconte when stopped to chat with them before I departed for home.

All and all, I had a blast at the National and had an even better time at the Luncheon.

-Ian

Edited: Saturday July 26, 2003 at 6:52 PM by riccaboni

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Saturday July 26, 2003 7:47 PM

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Dude - THANK YOU for this awesome post. I could not make the national this year, but reading the accounts and seeing the faces of the names I have become so familiar with helps lesson the pain of not being able to attend. GREAT ACCOUNT and thanks again for the pictures - take care buddy.

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Dude

Thanks for taking the time to take the pics and to post them for all to see. Nice to see some faces with a name. We havent done it in awhile maybe we should post are pics. I will Sunday to get the ball rolling.


JAMES

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AWESOME!..great post.

thanks dude its always a blast seeing all the pictures....thanks a lot.

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I loved the show. For me the best part was meeting everyone in person that I have associated with over the past couple of years. Dude posted pics that were much better than mine, so I won't post many. It was particularly nice to meet Alan (Acowa) after dealing with him a lot. His neck wasn't even red at all. Super nice and helpful, too.

As far as cards, I didn't pick up too much. I picked up a common 61 PSA 10 that Acowa led me too. Thanks Alan!!! I also picked up a nice 61 PSA 9 Mays MVP from Peter Lalos of Champs and Bums.

I agree with the others about the Luncheon, BJ and Joe. I sat next to Tipem (Vic) and his son, as well as Ron Sanders and Wayne.

The dinner Bob (Gaspipe) put together and the luncheon were the highlights for sure. Great food and company. The luncheon was much nicer than I expected it to be. Thanks Bob and BJ!!

Atlantic City was actually nicer than I thought it would be. (I didn't expect much). There seems to be a lot of new construction going on between the convention center and the casinos. The boardwalk was clean and full of interesting things. The casinos were huge, and shared some of their fortune with me!!

I was able to spend a little time with Al Zouky(Hubcap) and Marshall Fogel. Both are great guys.

I only had a day and a half at the show. I could have easily filled all four days. Lots of tables I never even got to.

PSA definitely had the biggest presence. I saw a few GAI and SGC cards, but 90% were PSA cards for sale. Most of the raw cards I found were billed as nm/mt, but were more like ex/mt. I did pick up some nice ones from Kyle of Kyle's Sportscards, but Keith Abrams(Andie Haley) had already picked through his cards a few weeks earlier.

If someone will tell me how, I will post a few of the pics I have.

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Dan , thanks for doing a great job again with the pics. It was great meeting all who came to dinner Thurs evening. I'm sorry I missed everyone at the luncheon Friday but unfortunately I had a date with a kidney stone at the glorious Atlantic City Hospital. I did make it for a little while to the auction that evening but was in no shape to stay long. I picked up 65 nice commons and a couple of graded cards. Not to mention the 2-1964 Lots (#299 and #300) and a 1970 PSA 10 common from Superior. I hope to see everyone next year in Cleveland.

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