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UPDATED - 1896 San Fransisco Mint - DIE USE INFORMATION POSTED
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This thread is for the REAL COIN GEEKS! 
I would like to thank RWB (Roger W. Burdette) for this source of enlightenment and entertainment. Thanks Roger! While doing research at NARA, he came across this really neat hand written document titled "Statement for the Life of Dies for 1896. U.S. Mint San Fransisco". It lists the number of obverse and reverse dies used for each denomination struck at the San Fransisco Mint. It tells us how many coins were actually struck WITH EACH DIE! Then it also tells us the average number of coins stuck with each obverse and reverse die per each denomination. Something else we can gather from this information is the possible ERROR RATE or RATE OF REJECTION per denomination. If we look at the MINTAGE numbers listed in the Red Book we will see that those numbers listed are lower than what is listed in this document since most problem coins were pulled and melted.
A small glimpse into what was going on within the San Fransisco Mint in 1896.
Original Quiz Questions Asked
Question #1. Which denomination had the FEWEST number of dies used (obverse and reverse combined).
Half Eagle - 1 OBV, 2 REV
Question #2. Which denomination had the second fewest(trick question)?
Eagle & Quarter Tied at 4. Both had 2 Obv and 2 Rev Dies Used
Question #3. How many OBVERSE DIES were used for the Morgan Dollar(this was the most of any denomination obverse or reverse)?
35
Question #4. How many REVERSE DIES were used for the DIME?
4
Question #5. What was the average number of pieces struck per Morgan Dollar Obverse Die and how do you think that compared to the Reverse Die
143,204 Pieces. Reverse was about 34.6% more per die at 192,774 Pieces
Question #6. Red Book Mintage Numbers for all denominations added up show 8,587,118 pieces produced. What do you think the RATE OF REJECTION of all pieces combined was?
7 tenths of 1%.............aka .7%.......or .007
Question #7. Which denomination do you think had the worst rate of rejection?
You figure it out...
Side note....I wish I had information like this for 1916-1945 but I am told most of this information has been lost or destroyed.
Link to Download Full Size 1896-S_Die_Use.jpg - About 2.5MB
I would like to thank RWB (Roger W. Burdette) for this source of enlightenment and entertainment. Thanks Roger! While doing research at NARA, he came across this really neat hand written document titled "Statement for the Life of Dies for 1896. U.S. Mint San Fransisco". It lists the number of obverse and reverse dies used for each denomination struck at the San Fransisco Mint. It tells us how many coins were actually struck WITH EACH DIE! Then it also tells us the average number of coins stuck with each obverse and reverse die per each denomination. Something else we can gather from this information is the possible ERROR RATE or RATE OF REJECTION per denomination. If we look at the MINTAGE numbers listed in the Red Book we will see that those numbers listed are lower than what is listed in this document since most problem coins were pulled and melted.
A small glimpse into what was going on within the San Fransisco Mint in 1896.
Original Quiz Questions Asked
Question #1. Which denomination had the FEWEST number of dies used (obverse and reverse combined).
Half Eagle - 1 OBV, 2 REV
Question #2. Which denomination had the second fewest(trick question)?
Eagle & Quarter Tied at 4. Both had 2 Obv and 2 Rev Dies Used
Question #3. How many OBVERSE DIES were used for the Morgan Dollar(this was the most of any denomination obverse or reverse)?
35
Question #4. How many REVERSE DIES were used for the DIME?
4
Question #5. What was the average number of pieces struck per Morgan Dollar Obverse Die and how do you think that compared to the Reverse Die
143,204 Pieces. Reverse was about 34.6% more per die at 192,774 Pieces
Question #6. Red Book Mintage Numbers for all denominations added up show 8,587,118 pieces produced. What do you think the RATE OF REJECTION of all pieces combined was?
7 tenths of 1%.............aka .7%.......or .007
Question #7. Which denomination do you think had the worst rate of rejection?
You figure it out...
Side note....I wish I had information like this for 1916-1945 but I am told most of this information has been lost or destroyed.
Link to Download Full Size 1896-S_Die_Use.jpg - About 2.5MB
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Figured I would bump it to see if just 1 person would be willing/interested in participating here. I thought there were more coin geeks out there but I guess not. Everyone is just interested in pretty pictures, plastic, grades and Top Pops.
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1870 and 1894 are the most noteable coming from the frisco mint...
1870 saw one die...one coin
1894 well you being a dime man know that note...
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great post keymanster
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You should have put "ebay" in the title to get more interest.