Big Three Barber Q Fakes on ebay. Also key Seated Quarters Buffalo Nickels

dogwood · February 18, 2011 9:00AM

Here

I tried to report item but I gave up. No watchdog category and I didn't receive anything fraudulent.

Manorcourtman · February 18, 2011 9:28AM

<< Here

I tried to report item but I gave up. No watchdog category and I didn't receive anything fraudulent. >>

Reported. Here's the best link to report coin fakes, you will have to log in to your eBay account to report item: eBay report link

MadMax67 · February 18, 2011 9:49AM

Reported here too,hope enough reports gets this guy kicked off of ebay,and the poor sucker who is bidding on them saves his money to buy the real thing-

toyz4geo · February 18, 2011 10:44AM

Interesting that he only ships to the United States.

dogwood · February 18, 2011 2:37PM

Thanks for the input.
Second bidder jumped in. The lot is up to $610.

BlindedByEgo · February 18, 2011 2:47PM

Reported.

DennisH · February 18, 2011 2:57PM

Reported.

BigE · February 18, 2011 3:01PM

Reported, I think e-bay is off for the night

------------BigE

Coinlearner · February 18, 2011 3:15PM

Too the inexperienced collector/buyer,reading this forum, it may be helpful to briefly explain why you think they are fakes. More info the more people will understand and learn about such things. That is one of the reasons for the forum.

Tdec1000 · February 18, 2011 3:47PM

Reported here too!

Edited to add.....did you see the other coin listings? I reported those too!

BigE · February 18, 2011 3:58PM

Look at his 1918/17-D in the other auction

---------BigE

vibr0nic · February 18, 2011 4:12PM

<< Too the inexperienced collector/buyer,reading this forum, it may be helpful to briefly explain why you think they are fakes. More info the more people will understand and learn about such things. That is one of the reasons for the forum. >>

I am a complete and total novice at coins, and I wondered this myself. However, doing this certainly helped...

Left side = eBayer. Right side = Heritage.

Pretty easy to spot differences with the stars, the inside edge pattern, the motto, the date, the nose, the eyes... Heck, everything is wrong, really.

BigE · February 18, 2011 4:32PM

<< Too the inexperienced collector/buyer,reading this forum, it may be helpful to briefly explain why you think they are fakes. More info the more people will understand and learn about such things. That is one of the reasons for the forum. >>

I was going to suggest that if you hold up a picture of a coin next to the one in the auction you cant tell the differences. When you see a lot of coins, a fake comes along and its almost like when you notice something is wrong with an old friend or family member, you can tell some thing is up.------------BigE

Walkerguy21D · February 18, 2011 11:14PM

Good thread for all, and thanks VibrOnic - that was a slick comparison.

Now I wonder how the fake was produced - I mean, it looks like he even took the time to wear it down, clean it, and then AT it, giving it a look that a raw, genuine coin might have (I see raw common dates like this at shows all the time!).

AUandAG · February 19, 2011 1:28AM

All three auctions reported. Note sent to seller.

bob

DennisH · February 19, 2011 2:20AM

His two other auctions reported as well.

Cratylus · February 19, 2011 2:37AM

I've reported him as well.

dogwood · February 19, 2011 3:49AM

<< Too the inexperienced collector/buyer,reading this forum, it may be helpful to briefly explain why you think they are fakes. More info the more people will understand and learn about such things. That is one of the reasons for the forum. >>

Great question and good point. I really didn't want to start another eBay thread, but for the alert.
Some things popped out immediately as yellow flags:
*Overseas seller.
*The Big Three, in one auction, in high grade.

Even if one of these were in the lot alone, and the seller was from Breadbasket Iowa the look of each coin is wrong to a Barber collector. The type style of the date and lettering is the immediate proof.

At the end of the day vibrOnic nailed it with the photos.

Frankcoins · February 19, 2011 8:08AM

Was trying to track this guy down, and found that there is no Ebay site for Israel. And this:

Omri Lavi, one of the founders of the Israeli eBay users' community, said "Israelis ... can't sell something
for 75 cents that they paid a dollar for years ago. Instead, they start at $2 and go down to $1.50."

Dave99B · February 19, 2011 8:59AM

Reported.

Dave

rld14 · February 19, 2011 9:42AM

Reported as well.

Not the first fake key Barber quarter I have seen come out of Israel, about.. oh maybe a year ago I saw one that someone bought, raw, off of eBay from a seller in Israel a one of the Westchester county NY shows. IIRC it too was a VF-XF and was bad. Thankfully the guy paid by PayPal with his credit card.... hope he was made whole.

OTOH, he paid $7k IIRC for an 01-S so I suppose he had to assume some risk.

Manorcourtman · February 19, 2011 11:28PM

Still for sale.

MadMax67 · February 20, 2011 2:01AM

I have already reported this seller's items 3 times and the auctions are still up,the bid is up to $1800 on the big 3 Barbers,poor buyers are not going to know what hit them if try to resell to a dealer-this is a shame that ebay is ignoreing all of our reports-then again it is just a profit to them ,the higher they sell for the more Ebay makes-

DennisH · February 20, 2011 3:13AM

Now up to $2,185

barbwire · February 20, 2011 3:46AM

Reported.

coinguy1 · February 20, 2011 8:19AM

<< Now up to $2,185

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That's my doing

HKstrongside · February 20, 2011 9:26AM

Thanks for the comparisons, those were very helpful. I would be very leery buying anything from outside the US, let alone a key date expensive coin.

dogwood · February 20, 2011 10:14AM

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That's my doing

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You know, I was thinking along the lines of putting in a $20,000 bid and then upon winning, instantly filing a fraud claim with ebay.

pontiacinf · February 20, 2011 10:21AM

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That's my doing

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what happens if you win, and then do not pay, does that wack your account Mark?

coinguy1 · February 20, 2011 10:25AM

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That's my doing

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what happens if you win, and then do not pay, does that wack your account Mark? >>

It hasn't so far, Bill. I only do that in cases where the coins are counterfeit and/or the listing is a scam. I am hoping and expecting that the listings will be nuked by EBay before their scheduled completions. But just in case....

JamesMurray · February 20, 2011 10:31AM

the price of quarters just went up

Dave99B · February 20, 2011 11:09AM

$6,100? Who are these bidders????

Dave

Coinlearner · February 20, 2011 11:16AM

<< $6,100? Who are these bidders????

Dave >>

..............

..Someone that is reading this thread but being quiet about it..............P.S. Not me.

max42565 · February 20, 2011 11:45AM

I wonder why anybody would bid on theese,besides that with a little work on the internet you could figure out they are bogus. If you know enough that they are expensive key dates, you should know enough not to buy them from an unknown seller half a world away.

taxmad · February 20, 2011 11:50AM

Several members should get in a bidding war - if this gets up around $50,000 maybe eBay might notice...

ArizonaJack · February 20, 2011 12:29PM

JamesMurray · February 20, 2011 12:38PM

Do i hear 16 ?

ArizonaJack · February 20, 2011 12:40PM

sure, why not

Whoever is e***i (33), let me warn you, I have some seriously deep pockets

JamesMurray · February 20, 2011 12:47PM

<< sure, why not

All of his fake coin auctions now have some really freaky high bids :-) >>

Sellers like a good biddin war : )

rld14 · February 20, 2011 1:02PM

Not THAT deep Jack!

Oh look, someone bidding also has 113 FBs!

mingot · February 20, 2011 1:20PM

something goofy has happened with these listings. they are now tripping up chromes fishing filter.

now, the domain is a legit ebay domain, so i am not worried about it, but this was not happening earlier in the day.

BigE · February 20, 2011 1:37PM

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<< Now up to $2,185

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That's my doing

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what happens if you win, and then do not pay, does that wack your account Mark? >>

It hasn't so far, Bill. I only do that in cases where the coins are counterfeit and/or the listing is a scam. I am hoping and expecting that the listings will be nuked by EBay before their scheduled completions. But just in case.... >>

Mark, I know you are good for the 2K, just LMK

---------BigE

Ooops, I see its up to 16K,might have to check with the wife

Frankcoins · February 20, 2011 2:58PM

Same seller has 4 fake Buffalo nickels bid up to $20,000

Link

The seller has this message in rec.collecting.coins

http://global.ebay.com/search?Query=260739656221

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All Uncirculated value over 10 000 USD

.1913-S type 2 buffalo nickel

.1913-D type 2 buffalo nickel

.1918-D 8 over 7 buffalo nickel

.1937-D 3 legged buffalo nickel

.Vary rare thankyou

JamesMurray · February 20, 2011 3:14PM

Its gone 8am monday morning in israel , if only candid camera could get in to film the seller signing in to ebay this morning lol

rld14 · February 20, 2011 4:45PM

Looks like i might win all 3 coin lots.......

ArizonaJack · February 20, 2011 6:08PM

<< Looks like i might win all 3 coin lots....... >>

You actually want them coins more than me !!!!! It's not over yet buddy :-) I told you my pockets are DEEP !!!!!!!

rld14 · February 20, 2011 6:18PM

<< 

<< Looks like i might win all 3 coin lots....... >>

You actually want them coins more than me !!!!! It's not over yet buddy :-) I told you my pockets are DEEP !!!!!!! >>

But gee... I need those 3 Barbers in XF... think they'll slab?

taxmad · February 20, 2011 11:33PM

Somewhere there is some guy with a stack of these 'coins' to sell that is piddling his pants as he places orders for more coins and a new car...

Manorcourtman · February 21, 2011 5:23AM

Now they're up to 142k+. Ya think eBay is asleep at the wheel!!

4 Of Buffalo Nickels In High Graded & High Value.
1913-S T2,1913-D T2,1918-D 8/7,1937-D 3legged.
Seller User ID: avenue-2010Enlarge 15 Bids $50,300.00
Free shipping Time left:3d 18h 28m
3 Of Seated Quarters In High Graded & High Value.
1871-CC,1872-CC,1873-CC.
Seller User ID: avenue-2010Enlarge 12 Bids $75,100.00
Free shipping Time left:3d 19h 9m
3 Of Barber Quarters In High Graded & High Value.
1896-S,1901-S,1913-S.
Seller User ID: avenue-2010Enlarge 16 Bids $17,445.00
Free shipping Time left:3d 19h 40m

CoinRaritiesOnline · February 21, 2011 5:48AM

Reported.

What the heck is wrong with eBay???

rld14 · February 21, 2011 5:57AM

<< Now they're up to 142k+. Ya think eBay is asleep at the wheel!!

4 Of Buffalo Nickels In High Graded & High Value.
1913-S T2,1913-D T2,1918-D 8/7,1937-D 3legged.
Seller User ID: avenue-2010Enlarge 15 Bids $50,300.00
Free shipping Time left:3d 18h 28m
3 Of Seated Quarters In High Graded & High Value.
1871-CC,1872-CC,1873-CC.
Seller User ID: avenue-2010Enlarge 12 Bids $75,100.00
Free shipping Time left:3d 19h 9m
3 Of Barber Quarters In High Graded & High Value.
1896-S,1901-S,1913-S.
Seller User ID: avenue-2010Enlarge 16 Bids $17,445.00
Free shipping Time left:3d 19h 40m >>

Damn people keep outbidding me

Big Three Barber Q Fakes on ebay. Also key Seated Quarters Buffalo Nickels

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