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Who's behind the slab sticker "wings"?
Weiss
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Just got this coin and hadn't seen or heard of "wings" before. This just a wannabe nonsense sticker or is it from a "real" dealer?
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<< <i>It was certified by Paul McCartney. >>
<< <i>Lance Tchor. He is a dealer from Florida. >>
Lance runs, or used to run, Federal Coin & Bullion Inc. in Lutz, FL, outside of Tampa.
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<< <i>The WINGS sticker says "Original" in the hologram. Anyone know if the WINGs sticker is intended to suggest the coin is in its original state, has original surfaces, etc.? If so, is this a new service that isn't being offered by others? >>
Sounds like a dealer sticker similar to the Eagle Eye stickers. Only time will tell if they will carch on in the market place. I have my doubts though.
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<< <i>The WINGS sticker says "Original" in the hologram. Anyone know if the WINGs sticker is intended to suggest the coin is in its original state, has original surfaces, etc.? If so, is this a new service that isn't being offered by others? >>
Sounds like a dealer sticker similar to the Eagle Eye stickers. Only time will tell if they will carch on in the market place. I have my doubts though. >>
What makes this somewhat interesting is that there has been some desire to have an opinion on originality. It would be interesting to find out if this is the market need he's responding to.
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<< <i>The WINGS sticker says "Original" in the hologram. Anyone know if the WINGs sticker is intended to suggest the coin is in its original state, has original surfaces, etc.? If so, is this a new service that isn't being offered by others? >>
Sounds like a dealer sticker similar to the Eagle Eye stickers. Only time will tell if they will carch on in the market place. I have my doubts though. >>
What makes this somewhat interesting is that there has been some desire to have an opinion on originality. It would be interesting to find out if this is the market need he's responding to. >>
I've known Lance for many years and have seen quite a bit of his inventory over that time, too. As far as I can recall, Lance has been selling coins with WINGS stickers on them shortly after CAC launched. As for the "ORIGINAL" on the hologram; I interpret this to mean that the hologram has not been tampered with and would not interpret any numismatic evaluation as to the surface of the coin.
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<< <i>The WINGS sticker says "Original" in the hologram. Anyone know if the WINGs sticker is intended to suggest the coin is in its original state, has original surfaces, etc.? If so, is this a new service that isn't being offered by others? >>
Sounds like a dealer sticker similar to the Eagle Eye stickers. Only time will tell if they will carch on in the market place. I have my doubts though. >>
What makes this somewhat interesting is that there has been some desire to have an opinion on originality. It would be interesting to find out if this is the market need he's responding to. >>
I've known Lance for many years and have seen quite a bit of his inventory over that time, too. As far as I can recall, Lance has been selling coins with WINGS stickers on them shortly after CAC launched. As for the "ORIGINAL" on the hologram; I interpret this to mean that the hologram has not been tampered with and would not interpret any numismatic evaluation as to the surface of the coin. >>
Does he sticker all the coins that he sells or only those that meet certain quality standards similar to CAC?
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<< <i>The WINGS sticker says "Original" in the hologram. Anyone know if the WINGs sticker is intended to suggest the coin is in its original state, has original surfaces, etc.? If so, is this a new service that isn't being offered by others? >>
...i think it means it's an original 'sticker'
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I'm going to start my own sticker... it will say "PQ" but it will not mean the coin is "premium quality", it will mean the sticker itself is "probably quantum"
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<< <i>I consider any sticker other than CAC right now to be meaningless gimmickry. >>
I'm sure Rick Snow will be happy to hear this.
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<< <i>[As far as I can recall, Lance has been selling coins with WINGS stickers on them shortly after CAC launched. As for the "ORIGINAL" on the hologram; I interpret this to mean that the hologram has not been tampered with and would not interpret any numismatic evaluation as to the surface of the coin. >>
I don't get it. If it doesn't have any numismatic significance/meaning, what good is it? It must mean some damn thing outside of the sticker itself is ORIGINAL, don't you think? Hell, I can sell you a sticker, too, if that's what you're into, stickers.
Oh, wait, I see, it's a marketing thing...is that it?
I would recommend getting premium coins into PCGS Secure Plus slabs, rather than paying a
company which offers no warranty to place a sticker on the outside of the slab.
To my knowledge, there was not an attempt to declare the coins as having "original" surfaces, or to only sticker pieces that could be described as such.
Also, as far as I know, Lance does not use these anymore. I think.
it actually stands for
World International Numismatics Grading Service
it was designed only for world coins similiar to cac
Lance is behind it but has several other "experts" who look at the coins.... the intent was to sticker correctly graded coins since many of the world coins were "in Lance" mind overgraded
The whole idea of fourth party grading seems to be yet another layer of complexity in an already hair-pulling grading process. How can I learn if experts aren't able to agree? I'd like for coin grading to be more predictable than coin tossing...
<< <i>The whole idea of fourth party grading seems to be yet another layer of complexity in an already hair-pulling grading process. How can I learn if experts aren't able to agree? I'd like for coin grading to be more predictable than coin tossing... >>
Man do I agree with that summation!
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